Those of us in veterinary medicine diagnostics are really hung out to dry
with Dako's price increases and push to make us accept the new Flex system.
In my institution, there is not a separate charge (nor reimbursement) for
IHC slides done for an autopsy (necropsy) or in-house surgical biopsy; it's
rolled into the overall pathology charge. (There is no insurance nor
medicare to fund diagnostic testing for animals.) Yet, IHC is imperative
for a correct and thorough diagnosis, whether it be for tumors or
infectious diseases, just like in human medicine. My lab performs about 125
different IHC tests, all done on Dako autostainers, and most of the tumor
antibodies are purchased from Dako. Do I want to replace Dako's products
with other vendors' items and have to redevelop, optimize, and rewrite all
those SOPs? No Way! But I can't afford Dako anymore and am starting to look
into what the others have to sell me.
Jan Shivers
On Mar 12 2009, Doug Showers wrote:
Claire,
One of the things that irritates me about some companies is their
tendency to
charge for their products based solely on what we get reimbursed rather
than
being happy with making a healthy profit based on their expenses.
Doug Showers, MS, HT
Histology Manager
-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ingles
Claire
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:23 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Dako
Why do I keep feeling more and more like these guys are the 'contractors',
and we are the 'government'. i.e. $50 screwdrivers come to mind... I
think we
need to start looking into these guys like others are looking into the
pharmaceutical market pricing. They think they have us over a barrel. I say
we put them in the barrel and pitch them over the falls. (the higher the
better) How about paying for their goods based on how much we get
reimbursed
by insurance/midicare/etc for the testing using their products. Although I
have to say my little experience with immunos (on derm frozen sections, no
less) I was really happy with Biocare. They sent tech specialists to help
out
with protocols and troubleshooting even though we didn't even know if we
were
even going to do the testing at all. Customer service was always great and
very patient. They even transfered me to a specialist if they didn't know
the
answers! Even their kits were compatable with other antibodies, and I was
using predilutes. Never failed me, and improved the staining of the other
brand antibodies when their own kits didn't work.
Sorry. Tons of stress and migranes the past few days. I might be on the
verge
of going Histo if I'm not careful. Is it Friday yet?
Claire
________________________________
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Thomas Pier
Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 1:21 PM
To: godsgal...@aol.com; hor...@archildrens.org; anne.le...@bms.com;
billodonn...@catholichealth.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
jlhow...@yrmc.org
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Dako
I've had great luck with Biocare as well. They've been my primary supplier
for detection kits and ancillaries since 2003. I'm probably going to check
them out for my DAB needs due to Dako DAB+ going from $170 to $400 for 110
mL.
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