And you are a wonderful tech. And I'm so proud of you for continuing your education. Anyone who gets mentored by you will be very lucky. Hope your having a great day. Luv ya
Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2012, at 12:35 PM, "Nicole Tatum" <nic...@dlcjax.com> wrote: >> LOL, I dont have much to say about this one. Like you Kim I have a fl HTL > license and an HT ASCP. I have two classes left before I complete my BSH > and will be able to sit for my ASCP HTL. I have 12yrs of experience but > that is not reconginized in the eyes of licensure for ASCP. I do believe > my skill level should determine my licensure status not the degree I > hold. Because I promise every class im taking rt now means nothing > towards my field. The word histology has not even be written in any of > the books im studying. I think OJT techs are just as qualified as any > person who completed an online programs, if not more so. I completed an > online histology program and learned my skills from other people in the > bizz with alot of experience who were willing to train me and be patient. > Never one time did I question their, experience, licensure, or training. > The OJTs carried Histology through the transisition of licensure and > passed the skills and knowlegde on to us young bucks to carry the torch. > > That is all...lol > Nicole Tatum HT ASCP (hahaha soon to be HTL ASCP) :)~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > LOL, I was waiting for this thread to turn into a fist fight. I knew it >> would. >> >> A Fl Licensed HTL is someone who oviously had to take more test than a >> ASCP certified tech if they got it from 19 years ago. How do I know, I'm >> one of those who had to take all those test way back then. Florida is >> pretty stringent who can do what with what. Not as much as they used to >> be, because now the only route is through ASCP. You will not work in a >> hospital as a histologist without a Fl License. Maybe in a exclusive >> provider private office, but that is the only exception. >> >> As far as Monkeys. Whew! I think that's whats wrong with our profession, >> one thing anyway. Too many people veiw it that way. >> >> Personally I wish the Histo programs would go back to teaching on campus >> with using the MLT course comparison. Not to bash anyone who is either >> involved or has been involved with the internet programs that have popped >> up everywhere, but I'm not seeing the same level of technical skill or >> knowledge come out of these programs. I'm sure there are many super >> students who do get it, but many times they are pushed through on thier >> short rotations and used as gophers etc and dont have the skills even >> sometimes to cut a block. And forget about knowing what a good control for >> a GMS is. >> >> I'd like to see our profession go back to min AS degrees in Histology. The >> certification only have hurt us and the pay scale is changing I feel >> because of it. >> >> Also, if you really want to promote our field and improve it, be >> supportive of your state going to a license for our practice. ASCP >> supports states requiring license. >> >> Thats my 2cents for the day. Happy Friday! :) >> >> Kim D >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: William Chappell <cha...@yahoo.com> >> To: Davide Costanzo <pathloc...@gmail.com> >> Cc: histonet <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered techs >> >> I have respected Jay's input in the past, but I too must say something. >> >> Without realizing it, and by stating his opinion in a horribly crass way, >> Jay has touched upon an important truism. There are two types of >> histologists, those that have a job that pays the bills, and those who >> have a career in which they thrive. Neither are better than the other, >> both are needed. I suspect, however, that the majority of Histonetters -- >> especially avid contributors are in the latter group. I know I am. >> >> Histotechs who approach histology as a job, go into work, embed, cut, >> stain and go home. they are excellent techs, but are just not committed >> to expanding the field or doing more than is needed to provide the >> pathologist with a perfect slide. Jay refers to these people as no better >> than trained monkeys. That is a horrible insult with a small (very small) >> grain of truth. One day those histologists will be replaced by a >> mechanical/robotic process. The march of progress is unstoppable. >> >> The career histologist has a much longer life span however. We analyze >> and troubleshoot problems. We understand or endeavor to learn the organic >> chemistry of stains. We know EXACTLY how a Rabbit Monoclonal antibody is >> made. We know more about the practice of histology than ANY pathologist. >> We invent and develop antibodies and special stains. And we conceptualize >> and perfect the instruments that will replace the first group in the >> future. >> >> Jay, that is why so many are offended. We don't do this simply because it >> is a good paycheck. We are histologists because we are professionals who >> choose this career. You may be going to a job cutting slides (which is >> great and necessary), but we are enjoying our life. >> >> Will Chappell, HTL (ASCP), QIHC, MBA >> and histologist by choice, not accident >> >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Davide Costanzo wrote: >> >>> I'm sorry - I cannot let this rest. The comment: "we are just as much >>> needed as pathologists, blah, blah, >>> blah......." is so upsetting I cannot sit back and listen to that >>> without >>> saying something! >>> >>> Everyone, regardless of their lot in life, is a very worthwhile part of >>> the >>> whole. Let me ask you a question, since you highly undervalue humans >>> that >>> are not MD's - let's say that you are a patient at Hospital X, and you >>> go >>> in to have your toenail removed. Who plays a more important role in your >>> survival - the Podiatrist or the hospital janitor? I would argue that >>> the >>> janitor is more crucial in this instance, for if he/she fails to clean >>> up >>> the MRSA from the last patient you could conceivably die. The doctor >>> solved >>> your fungal problem, but the janitor prevented you from getting a >>> potentially life-threatening infection. Think before you speak like that >>> - >>> everyone involved in your care is critical - and, yes, sometimes the >>> doctor >>> is not the most important person when it comes to keeping you alive and >>> well! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Jay Lundgren <jaylundg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Scott Lyons sln...@yahoo.com >>>> >>>> Give me a break, HTs and HTLs do not make diagnoses or treat patients. >>>> I >>>> am a registered HT and a Florida licensed HTL with 19 years experience, >>>> I've done it all in the lab. I believe the certification and licensure >>>> of >>>> techs is a scam to bleed more money from people. Honestly, you can >>>> train a >>>> monkey to do our job. And I don't want to hear from everyone saying >>>> it's an >>>> art form, we are just as much needed as pathologists, blah, blah, >>>> blah....... I work where they are hiring people from a masters degree >>>> program for histology with certification, THEY KNOW NOTHING. Experience >>>> it >>>> where it's at, whether certified or not, get off your high horse. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >>>>> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Histonet mailing list >>>> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >>>> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *David Costanzo, MHS, PA (ASCP)* >>> Project Manager >>> *Blufrog Path Lab Solutions* >>> 9401 Wilshire Blvd. Ste 650 >>> Beverly Hills, CA 90212 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Histonet mailing list >>> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >>> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histonet mailing list >> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet >> _______________________________________________ >> Histonet mailing list >> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet >> > > _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet