You forgot one thing.  We had to pass a practical examination of stains they 
told you to do and pass before we could sit for the written!  That went away 
with all the automated equipment and many who OJT now and even some schools 
don't do a hand staining specal stain sequence from scratch.  Or what all the 
ex tras ones we did by hand are as the list is s o extensive.  IHC is taking 
some of the old stains away and is a better method for some disease processes.  
However ; we still have some older patholgoist wh o want to see stains we don't 
do or can't due to mercury or other components we are not allowed to dispose of 
without a permit or extra expense to get r id of.  We have automated and hand 
staining with some of us older histologist still enjoying the occassional hand 
stain technique. 



Pam Marcum 




----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kemler" <[email protected]> 
To: "Fellow HistoNetters" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:46:42 AM 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered techs 

Good stuff. In the "old" days, 36 years ago for me, taking the HT(ASCP) exam it 
was said that you were "registered" by the ASCP, because the designation HT is 
given by the Board of Registry of the ASCP. Many of the NEW folks use the word 
"certified". After a total of 39 years (3 years was training before you were 
eligible) I still only use registered by the ASCP / Licensed by the State of 
Florida and call myself a "histologist". 
  
In those days ( long before the Internet), you took your ASCP exam (HT's, MT's, 
CT's, BT's, MLT's) at specially selected medical schools across the US. You 
chose the one giving the exam which was closest to where you lived. If 
you needed to drive 100 miles or further to get to the examining college on 
March 15 OR August 15th, (the only dates it was given) that's what you 
did. Getting into the exam auditorium before you were allowed to "sit" (that's 
what it was called) for the exam, was a challenge. You had to prove that you 
were who you said you were or you were not getting in. Once those guarded doors 
were closed - they were CLOSED! I saw several folks crying outside the 
auditorium that day n 1975. Chances for cheating were eliminated at every turn. 
Unfortunately, not so today. So you can see why for us older techs, if you 
were HT(ASCP) it really meant something. Unfortunately, not so today.  
  
Yours, 
Dave 
Histonetters, 

I see this subject tends to illicit strong sentiments from 
professionals who are impacted or have an impact on HT/HTL's (sort of 
everyone on the net)?. 

I am still in school, but I want to fully understand how training, 
certification, and registration work for HT/HTL’s.  I realize that 
ASCP certification is voluntary, and that some States require some 
sort of license or certification, but I’ve never heard of a “Registry” 
for HT/HTL’s. 

-The way I understand through what I’ve been taught at school is that 
Histology is the study of tissue, And that... 

-To study tissue there is another science that prepares specimens so 
they can be studied. And that... 

-There is a final sequence “Quality Control” that verifies the science 
that prpares specimens is properly done so the tissue can be studied. 
And that… 

In order for this all to happen successfully and consistently, the 
HT/HTL's make sure that during the whole preparation process, safety 
is observed, proper adherence to federal and state regulations 
maintained, plus train other technicians to do the same, and much 
more. 

If I understood it all correctly I can’t help but wonder: 

If HT/HTL's do all of this crucial preparation work to make sure 
specimens are acceptable for precise microscopic identification of 
cells, tissue type, diagnosis of disease, and other needs: 

"Why wouldn't we want to have some method that can gage a set of basic 
skills to indicate a level of competency that HT/HTL's should 
initially have, in order to enter the field of work that can effect so 
many people either directly or indirectly?" 

And also... "Wouldn’t having NAACLS accredited training and ASCP 
Certifications serve to gage those basic skills?" 

And also… "Would gaging basic skills have a positive impact on the 
quality of patient care and the efficiency of the HT/HTL’s impact on 
labs?” 

I'm not sure but...this fall… when I complete my NAACLS accredited 
degree program, and voluntarily take the ASCP HTL certification exam, 
my future employer will be able to expect a certain level of 
competency that I hope to have established through training and 
certification. 

Rick T. 

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