I will try and stay off my soap box while doing this.
I was asked my opinion by one of the remark presenters that I obviously took
issue with. Ok, as far as interviewing since that was the original question
(thanks Rene for reminding me), I did get off topic. I too ask questions about
special stains, fixation, processing, embedding, sectioning trying to hit all
the areas, but usually in a way to view there hands-on knowledge while I show
them around the lab. I also perform a embedding and section test for them,
having them embed and cut tissue that I have personally placed in the cassette
for their ability to be hard to cut and obtain good sections on. I also, give
them small pieces of tissue and later melt it down to see how far they cut into
in obtaining complete sections. Everyone has a way of doing things, no one way
is right or better.
Back to OJT!!
Bill give some great advice, I search for someone I think will be a good fit
and is excited to learn a trade that can serve them well in life. My
experience with people with degrees is they usually want to be paid for the
degree and not the work experience which is non when they are interviewing for
a OJT job. I have had a lot of good employee who didn't have a degree yet but
were working their way through. One lady I hired with a number of college
credits but was not quite enough for her degree, she has since gotten her
certification and is a manager at the job where I trained her (great job
Stephanie!! Very proud of you!!)
Don't be scared off by the OJT route, sure its a lot of work and time consuming
but we have a lot of great Histotechs out there for went this route. All the
ones that trained me were OJT and later grandfathered in to take the HTL test.
No disrespect meant to anyone, just give good sound advice, get off the soap
boxes, be helpful and maybe this forum will not be such a "boxing match" in the
future.
No back to work people!!
Timothy N. Higgins, HT (ASCP), QIHC
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:44:51 -0800
From: rjbu...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Histonet] interview
To: joellewea...@hotmail.com; thiggin...@msn.com;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Why, I wonder, every time an issue like this or similar surfaces in HistoNet it
becomes a contentious issue?
The original question was simple: a potential interviewer with little
interviewing experience was about to interview 3 applicants without any
histology experience for a histotech position.
And that started a torrent of advises that went from asking about histology
even when that was impossible due to the fact that the interviewees were
histology ignorants, to a series of unrealizable advises.
One thing is training on the job (that was NOT the question) to many other
suggestions having nothing to do with the original question and many "give and
take" of answers/counter answers leading to Tim's request to "give advise, and
stop the ridiculous remarks!" that I happen to agree with also.
HistoNet is a very valuable resource but sometimes it becomes a place where
some people want to impose their particular view points and that is not the
objective of this forum.
Just receive the questions, if you think you can help with a sound and honest
advise, please do it, but do not try to convince others that your view point is
the "Gospel" or that you have to counter any other advise or opinion different
to yours.
This is not a "boxing ring" but a place where professionally originated answers
are offered for the benefit of all, and especially for the benefit of those
posting a problem.
At least that is what I always try to do!
René J.
From: "joellewea...@hotmail.com" <joellewea...@hotmail.com>
To: Tim Higgins <thiggin...@msn.com>; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] interview
You can always delete if not interested
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----- Reply message -----
From: "Tim Higgins" <thiggin...@msn.com>
To: <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] interview
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:47 am
Gale and Pam, people on Histonet love to sit on their soap box and spew out
ridiculous statements without any thought behind them at times.
To say you need to "scale the volume down to a point where it is manageable"
(tell that to your boss!! Whatever!!) is coming from someone who obviously has
no working experience in the private sector. That might work at a research
facility but I doubt it, or to say bluh bluh bluh something to do with peanuts
and monkeys and the final one is, "The situation in histology will never get
better otherwise", REALLY???
OJT is sometime a necessary route we as supervisor of labs that are
experiencing a staffing shortage have to take to acquire the personnel we need
to perform the work given. You have to do what you have to do, find someone to
train if that is your only avenue. In a perfect world we would have qualified
Histotechs knocking at our door every time there is an opening and an employer
that is throwing money at us.
Please give good sound advice, and stop the ridiculous remarks. It gets old
real fast!!
Good luck Gale!!
Tim
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:37:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Pam Marcum <mucra...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] interview
To: joelle weaver <joellewea...@hotmail.com>
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu, ga...@unionhospital.org
Message-ID:
<117995865.193203.1357756656174.javamail.r...@sz0001a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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I totally understand hiring only experienced people however; I have a
question.?? What do you do when you have no one available and the institute you
work for will not help with moving expenses or sign on bonuses???
Believe me I know about training OJT today when you are shortstaffed and can't
meet salary demands.??
Pam Marcum
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