Correction, due to years of formalin abuse, it was 1 hour in concentrated formic acid. We then processed and cut them with all other cases. A few cases slipped through with just formalin fixation and additional precautions needed to be taken. That said the easiest and primary route of infection for CJD is ingestion. Needless to say we did not eat any of the tissue.
A simple and effective method for inactivating virus infectivity in formalin‐fixed tissue samples from patients with Creutzfeldt‐Jakob disease Paul Brown, MD, Axel Wolff, DVM and D. Carleton Gajdusek, MD -Show Affiliations Laboratory of CNS Studies, National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD. doi: 10.1212/WNL.40.6.887 Neurology June 1990 vol. 40 no. 6 887 Abstract Full Text (PDF) Abstract We fixed brains from hamsters infected with scrapie virus in (1) formalin, (2) phenol-saturated formalin, (3) formalin with a 1-hour immersion in formic acid, or (4) phenol-saturated formalin with a 1-hour immersion in formic acid. In addition, we used the formalin-formic acid procedure on brains from mice infected with the virus of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. Formic acid proved superior to phenol in respect to both disinfection and tissue preservation, almost completely eliminating virus infectivity in sections that were histologically indistinguishable from formalin-fixed material. The inclusion of a formic acid step in routine formaldehyde tissue fixation will thus provide histologic sections of excellent quality, and virtually eliminate the risk of handling infectious material in the subsequent neuropathologic processing of tissues from patients with CJD. © 1990 by the American Academy of Neurology James Watson HT ASCP GNF Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation Scientific Technical Leader II, Histology Tel 858-332-4647 Fax 858-812-1915 jwat...@gnf.org -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of James Watson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:57 PM To: 'Emily Brown' Cc: Histonet@Lists. Edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ebola Back in the 80 NIH did extensive studies on CJD, their protocol requires 24 hours in formalin, 24 hours in formic acid, followed by 48 hours in formalin, then paraffin processing. Worked with CJD at Frederick Cancer Research in collaboration with the group from NIH. If I find the publications I will forward them. James Watson HT ASCP GNF Genomics Institute of the Novartis Research Foundation Scientific Technical Leader II, Histology Tel 858-332-4647 Fax 858-812-1915 jwat...@gnf.org -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Brown Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:40 PM Cc: Histonet@Lists. Edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ebola If formalin didn't kill CJD, what did you use? Just curious. Emily "By bitching and bitching and bitching, they could exhaust the drama of their own horror stories. Grow bored. Only then could they accept a new story for their lives. Move forward." -Chuck Palahniuk, "Haunted" On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Patsy Ruegg <prueg...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Well said Pam, it is just assumed that formalin will eliminate the > biohaz for Ebola, I doubt if that has been conclusively proven yet, > remember we only discovered fairly recently that formalin fixation did > not protect us from CJD!!!! > > Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC > Ruegg IHC Consulting > 40864 E Arkansas Ave > Bennett, CO 80102 > H 303-644-4538 > C 720-281-5406 > prueg...@hotmail.com > pru...@ihctech.net > > > > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:26:16 +0000 > > From: mucra...@comcast.net > > To: tanyaabb...@catholichealth.net > > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ebola > > CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > > > > Take Brett's advise and use that as guidleine. We don't know as > > much as > we should about these viruses. 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