I, on the other-hand disagree. Steam has been lovely for me, and it offers lots to modders... maybe more in the future. Who could possibly be against the worlds first online game distribution system? It could be a boon to garage games makers. Or living room, in my case.
Anywhoo, i think it worked pretty well, all things considered :-) On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:45:43 +0200, Dan Partelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Valve fucked up in many ways with their Steam and imposig it as a > gaming platform. Apart from the fact is still buggy, it's slow , "preparing > to play Half Life 2" > takes ages, takes away version controlling from you, I want to downlaod > patches myself, > and have them on my HDD , so I can install - uninstall them as I want, when > I want, > how I want. > > As for Hl2 , its bad enough that you install the retail andf you cant play > without internet. > But is not only a authentification, as was claimed. I think serious portions > of the game are actually > downloaded over internet, I think the binaries, so your wonderfull Hl2 CDs > are a piece of crap > containing less then what is required for playing game. > > Hl2 sure worths the money you pay for it. A wonderfull game. > But does it worth all this Steam masquerade ? I dont know. > Make no mistake Vyacheslav. Companies do not care about you , or about me , > or other individuals. > They care about money. Valve is no different. They always claimed to be > extremly suportive for the > mod comunity, but dont forget this is a posibility to make money for them. > So this is a explanation > of why you even have a SDK today. I find ID Software way more open then > Valve anyway. > > On the other hand, Valve had a serious blow last year, so they had to ensure > somehow their game > is not all over the internet before the release. I feel for them and what > happend to them, but I find > Steam a piece of garbage. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "McCormack, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:53 AM > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [hlcoders] sourcesdk.gcf question > > > I am not an employee or affiliated with Valve in anyway. > > > > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vyacheslav > > Djura > > Sent: 06 December 2004 16:26 > > To: McCormack, Chris > > Subject: Re[2]: [hlcoders] sourcesdk.gcf question > > > > > > Hello Chris, > > > > Monday, December 6, 2004, 6:12:52 PM, you wrote: > > MC> If you have all the other 'required' content I believe the > > MC> sdk download from steam is only 16mb ? > > I already download sourcesdk.gcf and now I am practising yoga to make > > myself calm after Steam required to CS: Source update for SDK (which > > is nearly 20 mb). I don't have money for another 4 hours of internet > > and telephone. > > > > Thank you Valve very much, thank you for such a care > > to your end users with dial-up connection. I don't even want to > > mention encrypted game content on cd's and *required* internet > > connection. If next Half-Life game will feature installation like HL2 > > I won't buy it. I will forget VERC and Valve with the help of > > regressive hypno. > > > > P.S. License version of HL2 was a big slap on my face, because I live > > in a country where 99 out of 100 use pirate version (which doesn't > > require Steam and occupies only 2 cds) and such fans of yours are very > > hard to fine here. I feel like I'll *REALLY* start crying because of > > my inability to fix the situation. 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