Don't forget that hubs operate at half duplex, while switches operate at 
full duplex.

Kelly Johnson wrote:

>In response to Hubs vs Switches.
>       One of the biggest differences between the two is this, the hub runs
>all connections at the speed of the slowest connection.  Thus if you have a
>4 port hub with 3 100mb/sec connections plugged into it, and 1 10mb/sec
>connection plugged into it, all 4 connections will only run at 10mb/sec.
>However a switch will run each connection at its maximum speed.  Thus if you
>have a 4 port switch with 3 100mb/sec connections plugged into it, and 1
>10mb/sec connection plugged into it, the 3 100mb/sec connections will all
>run at 100mb/sec while the 10mb/sec connection will run at 10mb/sec.
>
>(To achieve this most switches also have some sort of imbedded controller,
>this means that many switches also allow you to make some changes to their
>configuration, such as Nat translation, port forwarding and the like.  The
>configuration changes available vary by switch manufacturer.   Hubs however,
>typically have no controller and thus typically are not configurable.)
>
>Kelly
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Parrot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:09 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question
>
>
>I'm not as experienced as most of you, but I set up a simple network with a
>full T-1 coming through the Intel Express 8220 Router (vs. a Cisco...it was
>only $700 new, has the CSU/DSU built in, and a slick "Device View" menu
>interface) to a 650 Athlon w/ 256 RAM running Win2k Server (not Advanced
>Server) with 2 NIC's.  I put the higher quality 3Com Etherlink Server
>(3CR990SV97 model) as the LAN NIC, and set this up with "Client for MS
>Networks," "File and Print Sharing" and "TCP/IP" protocols with the settings
>Manuel had also said below.
>
>I then use the 3Com "3C905C-TX-M" NIC for the WAN, but only have "TCP/IP"
>enabled (no Client for MS Networks or File/Print Sharing) to protect the
>Server PC and insulate the LAN.  I also run BID & NAV on both the Server and
>LAN PC.   These are all networked to a 10/100 SMC switch (I heard that a
>switch is faster than a HUB...but am still confused about what the
>differences and indications of Hubs vs. Switches is), where the router CAT
>cable connects into.
>
>Because I know that Win2k Server has much faster, and allows more
>simultaneous connections, I put my HLDS on the Win2k Server box, and running
>it with a custom user profile.  I also Ghosted and image in case it gets
>hacked.  I can restore it back from the 3 CD's (I have lots of maps!) pretty
>quick. I have nothing else on the Win2k Server PC.
>
>How does this setup sound to you?  The pings for people are superb....a lot
>are getting pings under 50!  I am also now running a second HLDS, both
>running as shortcuts..not as services.  So far the most people I have had
>connected to both games running is about 35...and no crashes or other
>problems have come up running this for about a week straight (have not had
>to reboot, or restart, etc.).
>
>Sorry this is so long...I'm getting to the heart of my question, but another
>thought I had was at some point to get another (a third) dedicated (used) PC
>box from someone, and use that as a dedicated game server, running Win2k
>Pro,  put 2 NIC's in it, also plug them both into the switch, and then
>configure one NIC to directly connect to the Internet (only using TCP/IP)
>with another one of the block of public IP's.  Then have the 2nd NIC connect
>in to the LAN so I could have configuring access from the network.  If I did
>that I would also likely get one of those keyboard/mouse/monitor A/B
>switches so I didn't have to put up another monitor.
>
>I guess my real question is:  Is there anything wrong with having the Win2k
>Server box that is also the gateway NAT routing PC run the HLDS games if
>that's all I have on it?  People are getting excellent pings, with many
>under 50!  I understand that the Server PC will get a bit more "stressed" if
>I do file transfers, surfing, emailing, play HL as client, etc. from the LAN
>PC I have now...but I thought that most all of these LAN requests just get
>passed right through the Win2K Server box out to the Internet.  Is there any
>point to setting up a third PC as a dedicated game server which would have a
>less powerful OS on it?
>
>Again, my apologies for this being so long, and many thanks for any
>feedback.
>
>From: "Manuel Bermudez III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [hlds] CS Server Question
>Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:10:18 -0500
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Well... I have messed with I-share before and really don't like it.
>If your running win2k server stick with the ICS (internet connection
>sharing) that comes with it. It seems to route traffic very smoothly and
>efficiently. I have had no problems (yet). Just make sure that you have
>two decent 10/100 PCI nic cards installed. Trash the I-share. You don't
>need it.
>Don't give yourself more headaches. If you are new to networking... here
>is some information that will help you out a bit:
>
>Share the nic that has the router/dsl/cable connection that is directly
>connected to it. It will know the other nic is there and create a
>default subnet of like 255.255.255.0. Then it will make the #2 nic a
>default gateway access to the rest of your network and assign it a ip
>address of 192.168.1.1 by default. It will also use the preferred DNS of
>127.0.0.1 as well. You have to do nothing. Just make sure all the other
>computers that need to have internet access are using DHCP by default
>and it will find an ip of 192.168.1.XXX for itself. Unless you want to
>give it a specific ip, that is up to you. Then connect them all to your
>hub (I hope you have one) and connect the server nic #2 to the hub and
>viola! You have ICS in basic form.
>
>Welcome to networking 101!
>
>Good luck!
>
>Best regards,
>Manuel Bermudez III
>Network Implementation Engineer
>
>
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