I always get confused on what those two terms actually mean... I've always thought that half-dupe meant that packets only went one direction at a time (in or out), and that full meant that you had packets going both ways at the same time.... Am i totally off on this?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sysop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question > Don't forget that hubs operate at half duplex, while switches operate at > full duplex. > > Kelly Johnson wrote: > > >In response to Hubs vs Switches. > > One of the biggest differences between the two is this, the hub runs > >all connections at the speed of the slowest connection. Thus if you have a > >4 port hub with 3 100mb/sec connections plugged into it, and 1 10mb/sec > >connection plugged into it, all 4 connections will only run at 10mb/sec. > >However a switch will run each connection at its maximum speed. Thus if you > >have a 4 port switch with 3 100mb/sec connections plugged into it, and 1 > >10mb/sec connection plugged into it, the 3 100mb/sec connections will all > >run at 100mb/sec while the 10mb/sec connection will run at 10mb/sec. > > > >(To achieve this most switches also have some sort of imbedded controller, > >this means that many switches also allow you to make some changes to their > >configuration, such as Nat translation, port forwarding and the like. The > >configuration changes available vary by switch manufacturer. Hubs however, > >typically have no controller and thus typically are not configurable.) > > > >Kelly > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Parrot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:09 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question > > > > > >I'm not as experienced as most of you, but I set up a simple network with a > >full T-1 coming through the Intel Express 8220 Router (vs. a Cisco...it was > >only $700 new, has the CSU/DSU built in, and a slick "Device View" menu > >interface) to a 650 Athlon w/ 256 RAM running Win2k Server (not Advanced > >Server) with 2 NIC's. I put the higher quality 3Com Etherlink Server > >(3CR990SV97 model) as the LAN NIC, and set this up with "Client for MS > >Networks," "File and Print Sharing" and "TCP/IP" protocols with the settings > >Manuel had also said below. > > > >I then use the 3Com "3C905C-TX-M" NIC for the WAN, but only have "TCP/IP" > >enabled (no Client for MS Networks or File/Print Sharing) to protect the > >Server PC and insulate the LAN. I also run BID & NAV on both the Server and > >LAN PC. These are all networked to a 10/100 SMC switch (I heard that a > >switch is faster than a HUB...but am still confused about what the > >differences and indications of Hubs vs. Switches is), where the router CAT > >cable connects into. > > > >Because I know that Win2k Server has much faster, and allows more > >simultaneous connections, I put my HLDS on the Win2k Server box, and running > >it with a custom user profile. I also Ghosted and image in case it gets > >hacked. I can restore it back from the 3 CD's (I have lots of maps!) pretty > >quick. I have nothing else on the Win2k Server PC. > > > >How does this setup sound to you? The pings for people are superb....a lot > >are getting pings under 50! I am also now running a second HLDS, both > >running as shortcuts..not as services. So far the most people I have had > >connected to both games running is about 35...and no crashes or other > >problems have come up running this for about a week straight (have not had > >to reboot, or restart, etc.). > > > >Sorry this is so long...I'm getting to the heart of my question, but another > >thought I had was at some point to get another (a third) dedicated (used) PC > >box from someone, and use that as a dedicated game server, running Win2k > >Pro, put 2 NIC's in it, also plug them both into the switch, and then > >configure one NIC to directly connect to the Internet (only using TCP/IP) > >with another one of the block of public IP's. Then have the 2nd NIC connect > >in to the LAN so I could have configuring access from the network. If I did > >that I would also likely get one of those keyboard/mouse/monitor A/B > >switches so I didn't have to put up another monitor. > > > >I guess my real question is: Is there anything wrong with having the Win2k > >Server box that is also the gateway NAT routing PC run the HLDS games if > >that's all I have on it? People are getting excellent pings, with many > >under 50! I understand that the Server PC will get a bit more "stressed" if > >I do file transfers, surfing, emailing, play HL as client, etc. from the LAN > >PC I have now...but I thought that most all of these LAN requests just get > >passed right through the Win2K Server box out to the Internet. Is there any > >point to setting up a third PC as a dedicated game server which would have a > >less powerful OS on it? > > > >Again, my apologies for this being so long, and many thanks for any > >feedback. > > > >From: "Manuel Bermudez III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] CS Server Question > >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:10:18 -0500 > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Well... I have messed with I-share before and really don't like it. > >If your running win2k server stick with the ICS (internet connection > >sharing) that comes with it. It seems to route traffic very smoothly and > >efficiently. I have had no problems (yet). Just make sure that you have > >two decent 10/100 PCI nic cards installed. Trash the I-share. You don't > >need it. > >Don't give yourself more headaches. If you are new to networking... here > >is some information that will help you out a bit: > > > >Share the nic that has the router/dsl/cable connection that is directly > >connected to it. It will know the other nic is there and create a > >default subnet of like 255.255.255.0. Then it will make the #2 nic a > >default gateway access to the rest of your network and assign it a ip > >address of 192.168.1.1 by default. It will also use the preferred DNS of > >127.0.0.1 as well. You have to do nothing. Just make sure all the other > >computers that need to have internet access are using DHCP by default > >and it will find an ip of 192.168.1.XXX for itself. Unless you want to > >give it a specific ip, that is up to you. Then connect them all to your > >hub (I hope you have one) and connect the server nic #2 to the hub and > >viola! You have ICS in basic form. > > > >Welcome to networking 101! > > > >Good luck! > > > >Best regards, > >Manuel Bermudez III > >Network Implementation Engineer > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds