Ok, I do understand the developers view. Now, I am not a subscriber but lets try the subscribers view!
A subscribing customer who bought Condition Zero (for instance) through STEAM to play online does not care one bit about the developing end of it or if the game is 5 years old! They just want what they are subscribing for to work. :) Or the guy who sells servers view. He stands to lose customers when Admin thinks his service stinks because he gets 14 or more complaints about lag. Regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue > Like someone said earlier - "spoken like a true non-developer" > > I am not taking your post the wrong way. Like many here I develop software > for a living. Very rare is the occasion that a product is made 100% > perfectly with no need for any future patches or upgrades. Even the best and > brightest minds can work hard on an upgrade or patch and still don't have > 100% oversight/foresight to know and understand what "might" happen (in this > case lag was introduced) or the affects of the new patch/upgrade on the > existing system. > > This doesn't mean the lag bug doesn't bother the heck out of me or do I > think it's acceptable. But, did you fail to see that Alfred took the time to > post that they were already testing a fix for this!?! Gee this means that > from day one (ok maybe day two) Valve was listening to us here and > investigating the issue, discovered a true issue, and started created a fix > for it. > > This is not ass kissing as you suppose - I do not currently, nor have I ever > received any benefit from posting pro-Valve, or anti-valve comments here or > anywhere else. Pardon me, the single and most important benefit is that I > have a place to post and Valve does have people who take the time to answer. > > P.S. Alfred - this post should put me over the top in qualifying for the > pre-release HL2 copy many others have already received. I hope you and the > guys could find it in your heart to email it to me right away! ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roc > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue > > > wow, you obviously are reading my post the wrong way. I was trying to make > a point that here we go yet again with another problem that should've been > worked on before release! > > Rolling back while helps is not recommended, can't you read? (see I can > flame too) > > Stop kissing up to valve, it doesn't matter if the game is old or new I was > making a point. A valid one at that. :) > > Regards > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:53 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue > > > > wow, you sure got a bug up your bum! > > > > Seriously, think about all that has transpired since the implementation of > > Steam and the number of times something like this has happened. While we > all > > have had our moments of being pissy and wishing things would get done > > faster, smoother, and more reliably, all in all the ball has been rolling > in > > the right direction without too much trouble. Besides, you can download > the > > old mp.dll like everyone else - or don't you know how to download. > > > > Geez boy, you are dealing with a 5 year old game anyway - give it a rest. > > > > Half life 2 will be out in another year, hang in there! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roc > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:17 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue > > > > > > I gave up and shut down till something's done. > > > > Maybe, just maybe, if everyone did the same for a show of unity and to > send > > a message that we're tired of the bullshit maybe just maybe we'd get > through > > to valve.... just a thought. > > > > Regards > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pawel Dabrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:09 AM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue > > > > > > > Just wanna verify those who had this problem are you still having it > with > > > the latest mp.dll? > > > Is there any other fix anyone knows of appart from replacing the mp.dll > to > > > the older one? > > > > > > Pawel Dabrowski > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane Robinett > > > Sent: 16 June 2004 14:42 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Windows systems, Intel - Win 2003 environments, dual processor > > > > > > I have 14 open calls from public server clients reporting lag issues. > > 10-30 > > > second freezes for client connections. Restarting the server seems to > > > resolve it, for a short term. Problem appears to have started in the > last > > > day or two. > > > > > > Valve - If you need access to some of our resources, just let me know. > > > Happy to provide test servers for your breaking amusement! > > > > > > --Shane > > > PHXX.NET > > > -- > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
