Hahaha, funny. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 08:30 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue


> Make me asshole, thank you
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Holl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
>
>
> > STFU, Thank You.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 05:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> >
> >
> > > Dude what's your problem?  Am I not entitled to reply to the comments or
> is
> > > this suddenly not a forum?
> > >
> > > If you don't like what I'm saying that's all good and well but do not
> tell
> > > me not to respond to a post Ok.  Last time I checked we still had
> freedom!
> > >
> > > Filter me if you don't like it!
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Guido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > >
> > >
> > > > We get the point. Why are you making a dram out of this? didn't you
> see
> > > > Alfred's post? I see on some posts that people long for the good old
> days
> > > of
> > > > this list. I havent been here that long, but im sure that 'The Good
> Ol'
> > > > Days' are much better then this, when people like Roc, keep
> complaining,
> > > and
> > > > thats not helping anyone is it? Roc, please, you made 5 posts already,
> we
> > > > get your point.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Roc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, I do understand the developers view.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I am not a subscriber but lets try the subscribers view!
> > > > >
> > > > > A subscribing customer who bought Condition Zero (for instance)
> through
> > > > > STEAM to play online does not care one bit about the developing end
> of
> > > it
> > > > or
> > > > > if the game is 5 years old!
> > > > > They just want what they are subscribing for to work.  :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Or the guy who sells servers view.
> > > > > He stands to lose customers when Admin thinks his service stinks
> because
> > > > he
> > > > > gets 14 or more complaints about lag.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:44 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Like someone said earlier - "spoken like a true non-developer"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not taking your post the wrong way. Like many here I develop
> > > > software
> > > > > > for a living. Very rare is the occasion that a product is made
> 100%
> > > > > > perfectly with no need for any future patches or upgrades. Even
> the
> > > best
> > > > > and
> > > > > > brightest minds can work hard on an upgrade or patch and still
> don't
> > > > have
> > > > > > 100% oversight/foresight to know and understand what "might"
> happen
> > > (in
> > > > > this
> > > > > > case lag was introduced) or the affects of the new patch/upgrade
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > existing system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This doesn't mean the lag bug doesn't bother the heck out of me or
> do
> > > I
> > > > > > think it's acceptable. But, did you fail to see that Alfred took
> the
> > > > time
> > > > > to
> > > > > > post that they were already testing a fix for this!?! Gee this
> means
> > > > that
> > > > > > from day one (ok maybe day two) Valve was listening to us here and
> > > > > > investigating the issue, discovered a true issue, and started
> created
> > > a
> > > > > fix
> > > > > > for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is not ass kissing as you suppose - I do not currently, nor
> have
> > > I
> > > > > ever
> > > > > > received any benefit from posting pro-Valve, or anti-valve
> comments
> > > here
> > > > > or
> > > > > > anywhere else. Pardon me, the single and most important benefit is
> > > that
> > > > I
> > > > > > have a place to post and Valve does have people who take the time
> to
> > > > > answer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S. Alfred - this post should put me over the top in qualifying
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > pre-release HL2 copy many others have already received. I hope you
> and
> > > > the
> > > > > > guys could find it in your heart to email it to me right away! ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roc
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:07 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wow, you obviously are reading my post the wrong way.  I was
> trying to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > a point that here we go yet again with another problem that
> should've
> > > > been
> > > > > > worked on before release!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rolling back while helps is not recommended, can't you read? (see
> I
> > > can
> > > > > > flame too)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stop kissing up to valve, it doesn't matter if the game is old or
> new
> > > I
> > > > > was
> > > > > > making a point. A valid one at that.  :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wow, you sure got a bug up your bum!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Seriously, think about all that has transpired since the
> > > > implementation
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > Steam and the number of times something like this has happened.
> > > While
> > > > we
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > have had our moments of being pissy and wishing things would get
> > > done
> > > > > > > faster, smoother, and more reliably, all in all the ball has
> been
> > > > > rolling
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > the right direction without too much trouble. Besides, you can
> > > > download
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > old mp.dll like everyone else - or don't you know how to
> download.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geez boy, you are dealing with a 5 year old game anyway - give
> it a
> > > > > rest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Half life 2 will be out in another year, hang in there!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roc
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:17 AM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I gave up and shut down till something's done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe, just maybe, if everyone did the same for a show of unity
> and
> > > to
> > > > > > send
> > > > > > > a message that we're tired of the bullshit maybe just maybe we'd
> get
> > > > > > through
> > > > > > > to valve.... just a thought.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Pawel Dabrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:09 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wanna verify those who had this problem are you still
> having
> > > it
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the latest mp.dll?
> > > > > > > > Is there any other fix anyone knows of appart from replacing
> the
> > > > > mp.dll
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the older one?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pawel Dabrowski
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane
> > > > Robinett
> > > > > > > > Sent: 16 June 2004 14:42
> > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > Subject: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > > > > > Windows systems, Intel - Win 2003 environments, dual processor
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have 14 open calls from public server clients reporting lag
> > > > issues.
> > > > > > > 10-30
> > > > > > > > second freezes for client connections.  Restarting the server
> > > seems
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > resolve it, for a short term.  Problem appears to have started
> in
> > > > the
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > day or two.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Valve - If you need access to some of our resources, just let
> me
> > > > know.
> > > > > > > > Happy to provide test servers for your breaking amusement!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --Shane
> > > > > > > > PHXX.NET
> > > > > > > > --
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