This is the stuff that really bugs me (not blaming you, just Valve!), what is this rubbish with people having to run winamp, now a quake3 server etc, all to change the fps?
Can't you just code either a fixed decent fps, or a decent range and get it working? Just seems like the oddest stuff I've ever heard that goes on with this engine. Just hardcode it properly once and for all and not have it affected by other apps/games that are on the server (bar load issues), it can't be that difficult can it? On Apr 5, 2005 1:18 PM, BoNfiRe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use a ticrate of 100 in the command line, and I find ( without a fps_max > set in ths server.cfg ) I only ever get 60-70 fps however I also run a > quake3 server and when that runs in conjunction with the css server my fps > increases by around 200 fps. Why would this be ? > > I have been messing with max_fps and ticrate with a linux server, and found > that whatever I set the fps_max would be what the server would run at > however doing this in a windows server does not give the same results, and > the only time I can get a higher fps is by running quake3 server ( An > increase of 200 fps ). Setting the fps_max works until someone joins then it > goes down to 60 then when it starts to fill ( above 18 ppl ) the fps drops > to 10, and at worst 1 but only in windows, not linux. To fix this I don't > set fps_max and just leave the quake server running, and I get a constant > 250 fps no matter how many ppl are on the server. :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kyrios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server at ~70 fps. -tickrate fps_max questions > > > On Apr 5, 2005 9:54 AM, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Supposedly this is getting fixed shortly > >> > >> It wasn't a Windows 2003 issue, unless this is a seperate issue Im not > >> aware of > >> > >> On Apr 5, 2005 5:38 PM, Brandon Dumont - MWEB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Thanks Kyrios for asking something I've just been to busy (or lazy to > >> > do) for awhile now. > >> > Is the tickrate cmd set in the server.cfg like fps_max or a cmd > >> > parameter? > > What I know now is: > > sys_tickrate is the old (HLDS) CVAR for fps_max (CSSDS). Steam > > Documentation says it's completly the same. > > When talking about tickrate in CSSDS it is a completly new feature not > > existing in HLDS. It's a launchoption only. > > ### CSSDS = Counter Strike Source Dedicated Server > > ### HLDS = the orginal old (HL1) Dedicated Server > >> > > >> > Please let me know what you find... > >> > > >> > Regarding CSS and win2003 server, are we still required to bounce the > >> > box daily to avoid the eventual performance degradation? > > See the other post from Alfred. > > > > Also it's never a bad idea to restart a process from time to time. > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyrios > >> > Sent: 05 April 2005 01:18 > >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server at ~70 fps. -tickrate fps_max questions > >> > > >> > Was just waiting for a reply to add the info that it is a cs:s Server > >> > ;) > >> > > >> > Meanwhile I continued googling around and read about windows not using > >> > high performance timers at startup and the workaround with starting > >> > mediaplayer or another multimedia programm. > >> > > >> > Unfortunatly I can't test it atm since it is a rented server and the > >> > "admins" are offline ;) > >> > > >> > I'll try it tomorrow and will let you know. > >> > > >> > Also I've now notived that the mtnioned Steam-Support DB Article is > >> > from > >> > march 2004. So it's propably for hlds. > >> > This now fits to Alfred's earlier post saying that tickrate greater 100 > >> > can create strange problems. > >> > I think the 1FPS Bug is one of those weird problems. > >> > > >> > So what I will try tomorrow is: > >> > - tickrate "100" > >> > - MediaPlayer in the background. > >> > - fps_max "greater 300" > >> > > >> > I hope/think this will give optimal performance ;) > >> > > >> > P.S.: Yes the post was confusing;) That's primary because I've been > >> > really confused. I totally mixed hlds and CSDS information. > >> > > >> > On Apr 5, 2005 12:58 AM, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > Not sure if its a little confusing your post, or maybe its just > >> > > me....are you talking about css (am assuming so from most of > >> > > commands)? In which case ignore pingboost. > >> > > > >> > > fps_max (faik), is the max settable via rcon etc, so probably > >> > > wouldn't > >> > > >> > > affect it. tickrate would though. It may help if you include the o.s, > >> > > kernel ver etc if applicable as it could be that limiting it as it > >> > > can > >> > > >> > > cause some oddities. > >> > > > >> > > Guessing fps_max probably will create some weird divisors if lower > >> > > than tickrate as it may try to work out something from the original > >> > > tickrate and know it can't go above it/reach it? (Not entirely sure > >> > > on > >> > > >> > > that one, but have seen similar in other game engines). > >> > > > >> > > The dropping down to 1 fps is a bit weird though, and makes me wonder > >> > > a bit if there isn't something setup wrong with your system. Also > >> > > make > >> > > >> > > sure all instances are restarted every day if css etc as its got a > >> > > weird fps halving+ bug which doesn't take all that long to appear. > >> > > > >> > > Anyway, bit more info would probably help those here narrow it down > >> > maybe. > >> > > > >> > > On Apr 4, 2005 11:16 PM, Kyrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > Hi List, > >> > > > > >> > > > today I first heard about tickrate. I then searched the steam > >> > > > forums > >> > > >> > > > and the Support DB. > >> > > > When I then tried (after reading the support DB "Engine" Article) i > >> > > > decided to try -tickrate 1000. > >> > > > > >> > > > What happend was the server running at 1000fps. After players > >> > > > joined > >> > > >> > > > the server the server fps dropped to 1. Unplayable ;) > >> > > > > >> > > > Now i've read on the list that "100" is the maximum suggestable. > >> > > > Trying this has now visible effect. > >> > > > > >> > > > The point why I'm trying all this is that my server fps are allways > >> > > > just arround 50-70. The machine is a P4 3,6 with 2 GB Ram. Also > >> > > > there are runnig 3 other instances on the machine I believe 70fps > >> > > > is > >> > > >> > > > far not enough (mostyl because the other instances do idle 23h a > >> > day). > >> > > > > >> > > > I also tried to change fps_max from default to higher and lower > >> > values. > >> > > > > >> > > > With fps_max 1000 there is no change at all. > >> > > > With fps_max lower than actual fps, the fps are divided and rounded > >> > > > :P > >> > > > > >> > > > Example > >> > > > rcon stats says the server does "61 fps". > >> > > > Then setting fps_max to "58" results in "33,3" fps. > >> > > > > >> > > > Very strange in my eyes. > >> > > > > >> > > > So here is the question ;-) "How can I get more than 70fps or is > >> > > > the > >> > > >> > > > server really to slow? Remember the other instances really just > >> > > > idle > >> > > >> > > > arround" > >> > > > > >> > > > Also I've read about -pingboost 3 or something like that. What does > >> > > > it actually do? > >> > > > > >> > > > Greets > >> > > > Thorsten > >> > > > > >> > > > P.S.: Sry for my terrible english ;) > >> > > > -- > >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > ... black holes are where god divided by zero. > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > archives, please visit: > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> > > archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > ... black holes are where god divided by zero. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > MWEB: S.A.'s trusted Internet Service Provider. 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