it would be very easy to use the same ip, if you are in the same
building behind the same router.
Friends having a lan party, room mates, my ex-girlfriends 3 kids are
behind the same router.

Ned

Ook wrote:

I did an analysis of my logs. The suspect always connects from
24.175.189.64, and I found 4 different Steam IDs, each ID with a unique set
of names. What is the chance that 4 different people can connect and somehow
show up as being from the same IP? I banned all of them, hopefully end of
story.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ned Haskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] IP Spoofing hlds server?




It could be as simple them both using the same broadband connection for
steam.
While using a dialup box to im you which would have a different ip. As
in, they are both
in on it, ban the ip and let them sort it out with valve.

Ned

Kevin Ottalini wrote:



it doesn't have to be that complex ... they are just cooperating
together to
try and get the cousin unbanned.

All the "good" player has to do is let his "bad" cousin use his steam
account from the banned IP so it looks like
(effectively) they are both ip banned even though they are on
different ip -
and the "good" player just talks to you
(IM) normally from his normal ip address.

I personally would ban both of them.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:31 PM
Subject: [hlds] IP Spoofing hlds server?




Is it possible for someone to spoof an IP address when they connect to


a


server? One of my regulars IM'd me and said he could not connect to my
server. He gave me his steam account login to test it and I verified


his


steam account could connect to my server just fine. I had him go to
"what
is
my ip address" via google, and then had him hit my web server so I


could


verify his ip address - they were the same. He said he was still
banned. I
inspected my ban lists, and neither his steam id nor his ip address


were


in
them. Just to test, I removed a different IP address that belongs to
someone
that knows him that I recently banned (I think they are cousins or
something
like that) (it's a long story), and then he was able to connect. But
when
he
connected, he connected from the banned ip that I just unbanned, not


the


ip
he hit my web server with.

So - here is the confusion. I verify his ip address, but when he
connects,
it's from a different ip address. I think I'm being jerked around -
Either
he (or something somewhere) is somehow spoofing his ip address, or he


is


talking to me from one place, and he has his cousin (who was banned) on
the
phone and to make a long story short, they were trying to con me into
unbanning his cousin. So - is there any way he can IM from one address,
but
when he connects to my server, connect from a different ip address?



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