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Alfred
 Online, if people drop their rates low cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate, rate etc
 They get a really low consistent scoreboard ping
(Although I have to say that it is not necessarily always the case that a
low scoreboard ping = low rates)
See pic here:
http://whisper.ausgamers.com/pictures/sourcepings/de_dust_pcg0003.jpg
 BUT, they (the players with extremely low rates) are extremely choppy on
other peoples screens, making them very difficult aim at and even harder to
hit
 It would be good if sv_minrate and sv_minupdaterate enforced the equivalent
client side miniums
 So an sv_minrate of 3000 would mean a client could could not set their rate
setting lower than 3000 and sv_minupdaterate = 30 meant that clients
cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterates also could not be lower than 30 regardless of
whatever setting the client may try to have, either by exec'ing a config,
manually typing in the commands or using some sort of alias that tries to
by-pass it.
 Does that make sense and help ?
 Cheers

 On 7/22/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Could I have a synopsis of the problems you are seeing please.
>
> - Alfred
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 Sent:
> Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:39 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] rate toggle
>
> > I've been getting my fair share of cl_cmdrate exploiters as well,
> > using the Mani admin plugin to check up on suspected exploiters has
> > been a big help. I haven't seen any undue impact on server
> > performance due to clients using a cmdrate that low... if anything,
> > you'd think it'd actually help (client not requesting as much data
> > from the server per tick).
> >
> > Suggestion - Valve should set a minimum/maximum range on cl_cmdrate
> > and other cvars; there's no good reason that I can think of for the
> > client to drop their cl_cmdrate setting below default (30).
> >
> > Whatcha think Alfred, can Valve lock down or set a min/max range on
> > some of these settings we're discussing here?
> >
> > - K2
> > http://www.hardfought.org
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris K
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:22 AM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] rate toggle
> >
> > I get 'em every day with the 5 pings. I use Mani and just toggle
> > cmdrate back to 30. I don't know about stopping people from EVER
> > toggling, doubt you can do that.
> >
> > Since you brought up rates, I have been wanting to ask. Does
> > "cl_cmdrate 0" on a client really impact server performance? I would
> > love to hear any good arguments for or against. I cannot seem to find
> > any good info in the forums.
> >
> >
> > On 7/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] is there any way to
> > > stop people from rate toggling , kid had a 1 ping in my
> > > server last night.
> >
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