I agree with you Alfred and I fully appreciate your efforts. I never ignore updates... I always deploy them, as should everyone else, but it just makes good sense to give yourself a fallback position... just in case.
-----Original Message----- From: Alfred Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:56 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Server logs A lot of servers are running old versions right now with known exploits against them. For large installations it is common sense to deploy new updates into a testing area, resolve problems and then do a wider deployment BUT I am seeing that not happen, updates are never deployed. If you have a problem with an update work with me and this list to fix it and then deploy it, don't just ignore it :) - Alfred Edward Luna wrote: > Agreed about the bleeding edge... but, just make a backup copy of your > server directories prior to the upgrade and restore them if the > upgrade goes > south. Make sure you back up the entire directory tree. > btw... I should follow my own advise... I always do backup first but > on this > last upgrade I skipped the backup to save time. My server users paid > the > price... I won't do that again. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hell Phoenix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:26 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server logs > > > I understand that Alfred...but whats worse...bad behavior or a server > that doesnt work the way it was intended. Its kinda like not moving > to > the newest Service pack of windows right away. Its a better idea to > wait and see what breaks before you go and update all your machines > right? If there is one thing I have learned in my days as a Microsoft > admin at my job is that being on the bleeding edge of updates/new > releases usually gets you in trouble. Right now I am glad that I > didnt > update our servers so I can have a peacefull night instead of running > around searching for fixes. > > Hell Phoenix > Frenchys Pit Server Admin > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > >> You should always update. Older server versions contain potential >> exploits and bugs that allow bad user behavior. We will be forcing an >> update to all servers in the near future (and not listing you on the >> master server if you do not update) to crack down on very old and >> cracked servers (who are the main cause for the number of cheaters >> currently out in the wild). >> >> - Alfred >> >> Hell Phoenix wrote: >> >> >>> [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] >>> Trust me...seeing all the problems with steamids and now logs, I >>> dont plan on updating anytime soon. >>> HP >>> Edward Luna wrote: >>> >>> Good luck... if you do run the update tool make sure you use >>> -verify_all >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Hell Phoenix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:58 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server logs >>> >>> >>> I havent updated since the last required update and everything >>> works fine still. >>> >>> HP >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds