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Kyle is just stirring shit for the hell of it.

If you can be led astray by what Kyle is saying about SRCDS please have a
read of: http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Tickrate

Cheers

On 4/23/06, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Right, so let me get this right...
>
> "There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS"? This statement is correct unless
> you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
> SRCDS servers are).
>
> "SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period". Uses it period for what
> exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
> does matter, however so does tickrate...
>
> "and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line". Disagree. Have you
> actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
> actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!
>
> "there has never been any command tickrate ever". LOL... So the
> -tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
> pass the time, and give us something to talk about?
>
> You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
> what you are actually talking about.
>
> If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
> further embarrassment.
>
> gg noob.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
> Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
> tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
> Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
> SRCDS  use the command  "FPS_max"   period.  And yes it can only be
> utilized
> in the CMD line.
>
> Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
> either the CMD line or the server.cfg
>
> There has never been any command  "tickrate"  ever.
>
> What the hell are you people smoking crack.
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Ian mu
> Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
> people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.
>
> It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
> can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
> commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
> that one).
>
>
> On 4/23/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many
>
> > time's in many forums that you can only set your sys_ticrate in the
> > cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
> > not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
> > Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate
> > is what its in the server config.
> >
> > And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its
> > ticrate and not tickrate.
> > For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.    :P   :)
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Frazer
> > Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> >
> > There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)
> >
> > At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring
> > to the command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be
> > -tickrate and, if I understand correctly, the only place and only time
>
> > you can specify this setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the
>
> > command line when you start it.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
> > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from
>
> > the steam support web site.
> > If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.
> >
> > "SERVER FPS CONTROL
> > HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.
> >
> > HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
> > second are rendered.
> >
> > SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per
> > second are rendered.
> >
> > Why do you need to control this?
> >
> > There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The
> > number one reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS
> > the higher the load If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization
> > with your current FPS settings, you are either running too many
> > players or you have the FPS set too high.
> >
> > HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to
> > 1000FPS (sys_ticrate 1000)
> >
> > SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to
> > 1000FPS but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to
> > support this.
> >
> > Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a
>
> > 1 8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be
> > run on
> > 2
> > 2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.
> >
> > You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get
>
> > a life beyond an Internet forum.
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Whisper
> > Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol
> >
> > srcds.exe -console -game "dod" -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers
> > 32
> > > -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password "secret"
> > >
> >
> > That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is
> > correct for SOURCE
> >
> > On 4/22/06, Frazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Omfg.  "dod" NOT "dods".
> > >
> > > Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when
> > > reinstalling srvany service.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how
> > > stupid the instigator :)
> > >
> > > F.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
> > > completely incorrect
> > >
> > > On 4/22/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate
> > > > if I'm correct. No k. :)
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > >
> > > > From: Frazer
> > > > Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> > > >
> > > > Nice work, Whisper.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you
> > > > made me go and do Frazer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_
> > > > HL
> > > > DS
> > > > -SRCDS
> > > >
> > > > It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the
> > > > camels back :p
> > > >
> > > > On 4/22/06, Frazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.
> > > > > I will test again in the morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the
> > > > > registry for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line,
>
> > > > > which I also tried directly from the command prompt is:
> > > > >
> > > > > srcds.exe -console -game "dod" -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600
> > > > > +maxplayers
> > > > > 32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password "secret"
> > > > >
> > > > > This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Frazer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
> > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
> > > > > HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the
> > > > > -verify_all
> > > > >
> > > > > If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that
> > > > > is affecting SRCDS
> > > > >
> > > > > What is your commandline startup btw?
> > > > >
> > > > > Try something simple like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > "srcds.exe -console -game cstrike"
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/22/06, Frazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my
> > > > > > dedicated servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.
> > > > > > This evening, I rebooted my machine and restarted my services.
> > > > > > The srcds.exe process starts, then promptly stops.  I have
> > > > > > re-run hldsupdate to update and verify content. I have removed
>
> > > > > > all mods. I have tried to start srcds.exe in -console -debug
> > > > > > mode from a command prompt - all to no avail.  The process
> > > > > > starts,
> > then dies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frazer
> > > > > >
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