I have switches to connect my domain controller to my file server to my
laptop.
the UPS was $1 at the school surplus sale, and was not even my best find.
How else will I back up my profile automatically, and install software
on my HP laptop that breaks like every 3 months and needs to get
software and data back on it again.
Also, I use the switch to connect my game servers (dual pIII 1.3 ghz
with soon to be a gig of ram each, and no CD drive, or usb booting
support that cost $5.00 each and come with a 4 hour parts delivery
warranty until October next year) to my RIS server to install windows
without CD's, but with cheap cd keys we get at school.
If you know a better way for free to get access to my 950 gigabyte file
server, while it is not a DC because that slows it down a ton, and have
the ability to access it securely from anywhere on the internet, install
windows without a cd drive, and be able to instantly recover from my
laptop deciding it doesn't like me, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oh and soon I will be doing off site replication of important shares
between my dorm and my parents house in case of a disaster like the
sprinklers spraying that rusty copper conducting water on my servers, or
their house burning down.
no vlans here, switches are like $2.00 for a 16 port 10/100 with more
than 1.6 gbps internal bandwidth NIB on ebay, so I just use switches and
wrt54g's with dd-wrt v.23 firmware to segment my network.
oh and yes I did say that.
Ryan Brady wrote:
did somebody say they have switches and routers in thier dorm room on ups's?
what in the world would you need a switch in your dorm room for? multiple
vlans in your room? anyway, redundancy is always important. but you are
right, it is not cost effective. Remember though, not that steam supports
more and more games (and gets paid for it) would it not be more attractive
for developers to know that someone will be able to play thier game no
matter what the weather is like in seattle?
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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts
You would have to ask their sales force if being able to say the system is
redundant would help them make sales.
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Still sounds like alot of money invested for nothing. Where is the ROI
for Valve? Will this cost them sales? I say no, the software has been
bought and paid for. By the time the next release rolls
around everyone
will have forgotten about this. Did they lose data? Nope.
Lawsuits? Nope.
Why then would they dump many thousands of dollars into a
more reliable
and redundant system? Businesses do things that will help
them make money
and this won't.
Anyone from Valve care to chime in??
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chad
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:50 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Post-outage thoughts
You are right, networking 101 teaches that, I took the
networking class
in high school, and got my NET+ certification, Even I know
that backups
are important, and I'm a college freshman (well I have enough
credits to
be a sophomore) I have backups, and they work, my laptop
decided one day
to disable all the user accounts and delete any that were useful (even
administrator was disabled) i got back up and running in 5
minutes, and
in 15 i had my programs back, and in the end spent more time trying to
fix the laptop than trying to recover from it.
after taking networking 101, I now have my computers (and switches and
routers) in my dorm on UPSes, and on a cart that in a power
outage of my
floor could be wheeled downstairs, or in an Internet outage, I have a
very long (100 M) cable to reach any other part of the building, and I
could make it longer with a repeater if I had to, but it is
long enough.
Valve has a lotbigger budget, and paying customers and a lot better
trained people than me, and should have much better backups and
redundancy, I can survive a loss of service to my floor, with minimal
downtime of my services, so valve should be able to stand the
loss of a
city (even by nuke) with minimal affect to the rest of the
world, if the
whole US was out of power, or gone by nuking, then I would be
okay with
them being off line, for a few days
Scott Tuttle wrote:
Such redundancy is Networking 101 and Programming 101... You can
choose to ignore it if you like... But in the real word it is fact .
Valve is probably making enough money to make it reasonable for them
to invest in a redundant system for that "money making" aparatus.
That is Economics 101. You think it looks good to investors that the
"backbone" of the system went down for the entire world
because of one
geological disaster? You think that's a good selling point for
software developers that want to bring their product to market?
273,468 game players couldn't play because Valve had all
their eggs in
that one "geographical" basket.
Wise business decision? You decide...
Ok maybe they are 500 level courses but you still get the point :D
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:57 PM
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All I'm seeing is whining, pettiness, and monday morning
quarterbacking.
Lets try this. If anyone out there has a diagram of the Valve
infrastructure, and a complete understanding of who they contract
with for what services and facilities, then lets see it.
I only am reading people bitching about what Valve should have done
over the last 10 years, and "I could do it better", without any
reguard or perspective on what the real world impact things may be
having in the Seattle area.
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