I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and 
down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to 
test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people here seem to have made 
assumptions with the information that was provided. The cl_restrict.... may 
have been removed, but Alfred has yet to reply to this list stating if it's 
been replaced, revised or otherwise. Everyone seems to be eager to jump down 
Valve's throat without acknowledging the fact that they are making an effort to 
work with us. Where's the big shout out to Valve from you guys that were 
spamming this list after every update you didn't get a beta for. We all know 
that updates will likely break things and it sucks to have to always find a new 
way to skin the same cat, but that's the way software works and most of you 
know that.

Alfred, thanks from those of us who appreciate the steps you're making at 
trying to work with the community rather than against it.




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From: "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Plugin makers work hard to make plugins that help server operators as well
> as bring some new fun into the game for players without having to
> redistribute a mod. Valve is falling over itself to keep us from doing this.
> It's the community support and creativity that keep a game alive, and they
> have never gotten this.
>
> I'll tell you this, when HL2DM dies for me, steam will disappear from my
> computer for good. I will never buy another thing from them again. Unless
> they change their outlook towards the existing community and put some effort
> into supporting us.
>

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