Why does it have to get so complicated? One tab plus filters, nuff said. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve,thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 community.
> There is no other solution to this problem other than to add 3 tabs > (internet, standard, custom) or to go back to one tab with all of the new > filters. > > Anything else is beating around the bush and not really solving anything. > > This seems to be what a majority of people want. > > - voogru. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:43 AM > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > community. > > like i said in another message: > > Remove the custom tab, add the server-tags and the filter-options into the > internet tab and everything would be fine. > with the current system i don't see any sense to add tags into my server > ... > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer 'voogru' > MacDonald > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:26 PM > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > community. > > That'd be fine. > > Right under the VAC message. > > 'This server is custom and game play may or may not be different'. > > It's a good excuse to increase the size of that message and perhaps let > server operators add a message while they connect to the server. > > Because we all know people read the MOTDS... > > - voogru. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:17 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > community. > > I agree with that entirely. > > Just adding a checkbox (like in the whole Battlefield, CoD and > (probably) Quake series of games) would work nicely, it's a method most > "hardcore" gamers are used to and one that newer gamers should get used > to, because it's the industry standard. > > Hell, even if valve have to add a "this server is using these rules" > thing to the loading screen, that'd be better than tabs > > I'd personally love to be able to add handy info like > "offensivepissheads;custommaps" to my server without getting bumped over > to the short bus tab. > > LDuke wrote: >> I'm pretty sure most people who are able to download and install steam >> are >> also able to click a check box that has the words "Standard Servers Only" >> next to it. Check boxes are a common feature in most applications and > many >> web pages. It's not for "hard core gamers" anymore than sending an email > is >> for "hard core communicators." >> >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Cheale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> I put that you think one tab is best because it is what you are used to >>> and the >>> idea of two tabs doesn't fit your mental model. I also put that >>> comprehensive >>> filtering options are great for your more hardcore gamer but that gaming >>> needs >>> to push out of hardcore alone. By offering simpler systems for people > who >>> are >>> not so technically minded as hardcore gamers helps open up the game to > the >>> masses, people who when they first play a game don't want to be >>> bombarded >>> with >>> strange rule x, y and z, get fed up and quit the game. 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