my servers still only show up half the time in the list.  i gave up a 
long time ago trying.

Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:
> Tell me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for
> online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their
> server browser? What a piece of crap.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
>
> There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to 
> control the game experience in online play more and more.  The most 
> extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142.  
> More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we 
> want to play it are being taken away.  In my opinion, this has stemmed 
> from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control 
> over the gaming experience.  That model will never work in the PC gaming 
> world.  I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and 
> publishers have become.  From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 
> to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy 
> console ports we get for a lot of games anymore  I just have to shake my 
> head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming.
>
> Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:
>   
>> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own
>> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing
>>     
> on)
>   
>> a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the
>> sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others
>>     
> have
>   
>> come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL
>>     
> type
>   
>> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that
>>     
> there
>   
>> are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong,
>>     
> maybe
>   
>> Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely
>> different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part
>> really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to
>> play from my steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So,
>>     
> I
>   
>> rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it that
>> Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I use
>>     
> before
>   
>> I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. But in all honestly, I
>>     
> did
>   
>> check out the new message from the update tonight and it seems fine to me.
>> Do I think anyone will notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope
>>     
> they
>   
>> do. I do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this
>>     
> type
>   
>> of thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I
>>     
> make
>   
>> no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way.
>>
>> Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very appreciative
>> of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, even though we
>> never hear from Alfred anymore!
>>
>> Just my two cents,
>> Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
>>
>> The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released.  Please run
>> hldsupdatetool to receive this update.  The specific changes include:
>>  
>> - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the
>> server browser is opened
>> - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that
>> still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a
>> penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time
>> - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the
>> world
>> - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are
>> announced in languages other than English
>> - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for
>> languages other than English
>> - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from
>> uploading gamestats
>> - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is
>> triggered
>> - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers
>> is increased for SourceTV
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
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