Well, you never know. They could surprise us with some new restrictions 
on (knock on wood) Tuesday...

Patrick Shelley wrote:
> Totally agree Eric
>
> On 8/17/08, Eric van Beesten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I'm not sure, but the achievements are part of the steamworks. I really
>> think steamworks can more then implanted in tf2. How hard is it to filter
>> bots for archievements? Every server that isn't standard is going to a
>> custom tab.. but it is still possible to change settings to get
>> archievements faster. I'm almost sure there are more reasons for not
>> blocking from getting achievements on those achievementsboxes.
>>
>> I think that more of 50 procent of the fun is gone when a few seconds after
>> the update everybody is walking with there new guns unlocked. You can ask
>> yourself if using a file to unlock guns is part of cheating?
>>
>> But maybe I'm a too die-hard gamer...
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens 1nsane
>> Verzonden: zaterdag 16 augustus 2008 23:23
>> Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
>>
>> Half hour? 30 seconds... there are files floating around that unlock
>> everything and apparently Valve is not stopping them :/.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Eric van Beesten
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm
>>>
>>> I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements:
>>>
>>> So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns
>>> unlocked!
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia
>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34
>>> Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
>>>
>>> New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Yatin
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Yatin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2008/8/13 Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm
>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>>  I want to see the next Meet the ...... Video
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "1nsane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> So the Arena mode has finally been announced?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tf_arena_max_teamsize
>>>>>>> tf_arena_required_teamsize
>>>>>>> tf_arena_preround_time
>>>>>>> tf_arena_round_time
>>>>>>> tf_arena_force_class
>>>>>>> tf_arena_change_limit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich
>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE.  Another new
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> one
>>>       
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school
>>>>>>>> quakewars
>>>>>>>> Team Fortress map.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> main
>>>       
>>>>>>>> class.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Video Master
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> Date:
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200> Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> Update>
>>>       
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't
>>>>>>>> think>
>>>>>>>> valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to
>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>> pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there
>>>>>>>>                 
>> aren't
>>     
>>>>>>>> really>
>>>>>>>> good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There
>>>>>>>>                 
>> are
>>     
>>>>>>>> some>
>>>>>>>> good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> tomorrow
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> :)>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> [offtopic]> > Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;)
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> I'm
>>>       
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> vacation then :)> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----> Van:
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> Verzonden:
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>>>>>>>> dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21> Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> server
>>>       
>>>>>>>> mailing list> Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update> > Just FYI, More
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> info
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> posted on the offical TF2 Blog:> >
>>>>>>>>                 
>> http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/
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