Assume you own and operate a TF2 server. I thought the idea here was to ban
from your server(s) those people who've cheated in the past in other
non-Source games. After all, if they've been banned from VAC secured Source
engine servers, you'll not have to worry about them at all as they won't be
there.
Also, what's the point of querying the SC pages every time when you could
pull from a local database that could be kept fairly up-to-date.
-Richard Eid
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Donnie Newlove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> The XML are very small and long from every server will use any plugin
> whatever it does.
> Then you could have the plugin save every non VAC banned ID in a
> database for two weeks or something before checking it again to
> decrease the load even more by caching the legitimate players.
> You could also make the plugin wait for a short amount of time before
> checking, like 5 minutes so that it only check players that is likely
> to stick around for a while.
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Olly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't think valve would be too hot on a server plugin that queries the
> > community pages. (Especially with the number of servers there are :p)
> >
> >
> > 2008/10/19 Donnie Newlove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> Thanks for the link, but I cant see how checking for bans at that site
> >> would be any better than at the source itself (which will always be up
> >> to date and proper), a plugin would just have too look for what the
> >> value of <vacBanned> is.
> >> But sure, if they periodically released a database with a plugin to
> >> read it or something like that it could be very useful, but still not
> >> as good as always getting it straight from Valve.
> >>
> >> Example, note that this profile is actually private:
> >> http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561197960265741?xml=1
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > You could always just periodically query this site.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.vacbanned.com
> >> >
> >> > It's not done yet and still has quite a ways to go, but you get the
> idea.
> >> > If a downloadable database were made available from there(when it's
> >> done),
> >> > in conjunction with a plug-in tailored specifically to query this
> >> database,
> >> > then you could effectively keep every single cheater/past-cheater off
> of
> >> > your servers. That site will be constantly querying Steam, so a
> >> > periodically updated database would seem easy to provide after the
> >> initial
> >> > round is done.
> >> >
> >> > This is a very interesting idea, but raises some serious questions.
> In
> >> the
> >> > end, I guess since they are your servers, you are free to keep out
> anyone
> >> > you please.
> >> >
> >> > -Richard Eid
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Donnie Newlove <
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> It has come to my understanding that VAC only bans for the engine
> that
> >> >> the cheat ran under when it very clearly states that it bans from all
> >> >> VAC secured servers but nothing about being game or engine specific.
> >> >>
> >> >> So now that steam community show the VAC status and the profiles can
> >> >> be viewed as XML, would it not be possible to create a sourcemod or
> >> >> metamod plugin that fetch the VAC status of joining players and ban
> >> >> them locally if the player is already VAC banned in goldsrc or
> source?
> >> >> Well, yes, of course it would and that would make VAC even more
> >> >> effective without being unreliable or unfair and the best thing of
> >> >> all, it will get rid of a lot of cheaters. Now I don't have any idea
> >> >> how to make plugins since I do not have programmer experience, but if
> >> >> anyone thinks this sounds like a good idea then please, feel free to
> >> >> do it or discuss it.
> >> >>
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