innocent till proven guilty tbfh, if you cant be arsed to manage your
servers and ban cheaters as they join they you should be running servers.

2008/11/21 tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Well I am someone who happens to be VAC banned on the HL1 engine, on the
> same account I keep all my Source engine games no less. FYI, I have
> never used hacks, so if you're going to ban me from your dedicated
> servers (which I probably won't even notice or care) you should at least
> know your logic is bullshit.
>
> Tony Paloma wrote:
> > I'm definitely in favor. Banning people who cheated in other engines will
> > suffice in the mean time.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt
> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:04 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Hacker
> >
> > That's not true, I actually can think of better deterrents but I don't
> > think most people would be in favor of jail time for cheaters.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Dustin Wyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If you hack on one engine, you're likely to hack on another.  Even if
> >> that wasn't true, I can't think of a better deterrent than thread of
> >> banning from all Valve games.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:30 PM, tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's a stupid idea. Hey, I'm vac banned on the HL1 engine, therefore
> I
> >>> must hack in every game I own, right?
> >>>
> >>> Donnie Newlove wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Well, his VAC status does not look good for him so its true that he is
> >>>> a cheater, but he has probably not been caught by VAC on the Source
> >>>> engine.
> >>>>
> >>>> This plugin still does not exist yet, but when it does it will change
> >>>> that, I'm looking forward to it.
> >>>> http://www.vacbanned.com/plugin.php
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Ben B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>>> So I wanted to play on my server, 18 poeple on it, filling up... so
> >>>>>
> > while I
> >
> >>>>> load, this hacker gets on with his aimbot/speed hack as sniper, and
> >>>>> basically makes most people quit, there are only 5 people remaining
> >>>>>
> > when I
> >
> >>>>> get in game.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You have no Idea how enraged I was over this, I told him I was giving
> >>>>>
> > his ID
> >
> >>>>> to anyone I can find, so here I go.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> nicknames: Pitty: like 1000? lol, [COTB]austantacious
> >>>>> Steam Page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997419331
> >>>>> STEAM_ID: STEAM_0:1:18576801
> >>>>> IP: 24.2.199.151
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please ban this pile of crap from all your servers until vac gets him
> >>>>>
> > or
> >
> >>>>> something D:.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
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