But but! An admin from CircleX posts on this list and he said he runs vanilla servers and is on the up and up! (Too lazy to dig up the emails about it where I called him out on it and he denied it.)
It's jerks like those that make legit admins harder to come by, and the games less fun. Valve has a responsibility to maintain the quality of game, and it sucks that they don't in this case. The security ramifications of the holes/bugs that some of these servers are exploiting is far worse though. But hey, Valve doesn't give a rat's ass about server operators, why should you expect them to give a rat's ass about people who have already paid for the game? > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:23:55 -0800 > From: dontwannaname...@yahoo.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 West Coast Issues [IMPORTANT] > > You can take Q off that list. Qosis closed Q today. > http://theqclan.com/viewtopic.php?t=29762&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Randy W <randygene...@gmail.com> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 11:34:14 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 West Coast Issues [IMPORTANT] > > let me guess you are one of those people who use fake clients too? I would > like to say first that *PAT* does NOT run any fake clients. We believe in > playing by the rules. As you can see from the fake client thread we are not > one of those clans: > > * > > - Lotus Clan > - -Q- > - ]TGP[ > - CircleX > - GTFO > - Doorman is God > - Steamfriends.com EU > - OG > - Mod.me > - Ownage > - SourceOP > - Saigns > - X-Factor Gaming (XFG) > - LMF > - Alpha Omega > - sonsofsteel.de > - -MCG- > - DeX > - Imperox > - COTB > - The Couch Online > - Fragmasters > > *All of the above clans use fake player counts and they do deserve to be > delisted, but let's keep that for a separate post. My server is run > legitimately - no fake counts, etc - and there is no reason it should not be > showing on the master server list. > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:27 AM, SakeFox <sake...@kingdomsend.com> wrote: > > > you guys haven't realized yet that valve has stopped caring about there > > games? We have been waiting for over a month for a fix for tf2 hell > > there are still some bugs from the beta that they still haven't fixed. I > > used to monitor my little bug list in the forums, but patch after patch > > maybe only 2-3 bugs would actually get fixed i started to realize valve > > doesn't give a crap about how there games run and that became overly > > noticed when they refuse to fix the map change error in TF2 and L4D. > > > > Valve will no reply to your issue nor do they care like they will not > > reply to us about any other bug. just give up > > > > Steve wrote: > > > I would like to know, too. I haven't had a problem with the list, but > > > that would explain why my West coast Insurgency server has suddenly been > > > unusually empty for about a week. It was #1 ranked last week, and now > > > it's at #5 according to GameTracker. I know of one person on the East > > > coast who reported being unable to see the server. > > > > > > Randy W wrote: > > > > > >> Is anyone else noticing issues with West Coast servers? There's only > > ~150 - > > >> 200 servers showing up for me on the West Coast, and over 1600 on the > > East > > >> Coast. Earlier the number jumped around between 50 and 200. I'm also > > certain > > >> this isn't an issue on my end, as other people I know are seeing the > > same > > >> issue. Some of my servers are appearing on the server list, then > > >> disappearin, then re-appearing, etc. > > >> > > >> Really need some assistance here Valve, this has been happening all > > weekend! > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
