So, I didn't know what clan msleeper was running but thought there would be loads of people complaining on his forums, and right enough in his bans section loads of people are complaining... First thread I saw this reply from one of his "TF2 Division" members:
"Or just do it on another non F7 server like everyone else who farms achievements does and don't fall for msleepers little trap next time. " I think you should ban this guy msleeper, not only does he play on your server but he's one of your clan members in "TF2 Division" and he's condones and obviously is involved in the highly illicit practice of farming, and advising those who play on your servers to farm elsewhere! On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Blood Letter <bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > This is not some noble cause that warrants beating your own drum in a > one-man parade. > > > > What you're doing is the equivalent of a child offering to share their > toys with another child, then taking them away and yelling "NO! You're > not allowed to play with my toys anymore! And my friends all hate you > too! Hey everyone! Isn't this person stupid! Don't ever play with > him because he's stupid!" > > > From: mslee...@cyberwurx.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:16:35 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > > > > I am not trying to win anything. Farming is a polarized topic, where > > people feel agree it is wrong, or feel it is fine and isn't against the > > rules. Like all server communities, it is up to individual server admins > > to decide what they want to be allowed and not to be allowed. Am I > > saying that every single admin or player out there needs to feel the > > same way I do? Of course not. > > > > I'm not going to say that people need to feel the same way I feel about > > farming, either. It's not "off base" and it's not the way that you feel, > > so awesome. Don't run it, and enjoy farmers on your servers. > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:54 -0600, CLAN RCR wrote: > > > msleeper, you are entirely missing the principal people are using to > judge > > > your logic/decision to base your bans off of. > > > > > > Until you decide to at least consider the fact that you might possibly > be > > > off base, weather or not you wrote a plugin to do this or that is a > moot > > > point. The quality or usability of the plugin isn't what is behind the > > > driving force to resist you, it is the logic that farming is somehow a > > > banable offence that people are disagreeing with, and until you > consider the > > > other arguements logically you will never win the arguement. > > > > > > -Matt > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey look I can crosspost to AlliedModders too. FYI my Karma is back > up > > > > to where it was before, not like I care too much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you're missing the point. Nobody is forcing you to use the > > > > plugin, or enforce the banlist I have up. I am being called > > > > self-righteous, but then being flamed and -Karma'd for something that > > > > nobody is being held at gun point to use. > > > > > > > > If you don't like it, don't use it. End of story. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. > > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
