On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:27 AM, f0rkz <h...@f0rkznet.net> wrote: > How about we keep f7 out of this. This was an uncoordinated event not > discussed with upper management. > > > f0rkz > f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness > > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Chris wrote: > >> So, I didn't know what clan msleeper was running but thought there >> would be >> loads of people complaining on his forums, and right enough in his >> bans >> section loads of people are complaining... First thread I saw this >> reply >> from one of his "TF2 Division" members: >> >> "Or just do it on another non F7 server like everyone else who farms >> achievements does and don't fall for msleepers little trap next >> time. " >> >> I think you should ban this guy msleeper, not only does he play on >> your >> server but he's one of your clan members in "TF2 Division" and he's >> condones >> and obviously is involved in the highly illicit practice of >> farming, and >> advising those who play on your servers to farm elsewhere! >> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Blood Letter >> <bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> This is not some noble cause that warrants beating your own drum in a >>> one-man parade. >>> >>> >>> >>> What you're doing is the equivalent of a child offering to share >>> their >>> toys with another child, then taking them away and yelling "NO! >>> You're >>> not allowed to play with my toys anymore! And my friends all hate >>> you >>> too! Hey everyone! Isn't this person stupid! Don't ever play with >>> him because he's stupid!" >>> >>>> From: mslee...@cyberwurx.com >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:16:35 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot >>>> >>>> I am not trying to win anything. Farming is a polarized topic, where >>>> people feel agree it is wrong, or feel it is fine and isn't >>>> against the >>>> rules. Like all server communities, it is up to individual server >>>> admins >>>> to decide what they want to be allowed and not to be allowed. Am I >>>> saying that every single admin or player out there needs to feel the >>>> same way I do? Of course not. >>>> >>>> I'm not going to say that people need to feel the same way I feel >>>> about >>>> farming, either. It's not "off base" and it's not the way that you >>>> feel, >>>> so awesome. Don't run it, and enjoy farmers on your servers. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:54 -0600, CLAN RCR wrote: >>>>> msleeper, you are entirely missing the principal people are using >>>>> to >>> judge >>>>> your logic/decision to base your bans off of. >>>>> >>>>> Until you decide to at least consider the fact that you might >>>>> possibly >>> be >>>>> off base, weather or not you wrote a plugin to do this or that is a >>> moot >>>>> point. The quality or usability of the plugin isn't what is >>>>> behind the >>>>> driving force to resist you, it is the logic that farming is >>>>> somehow a >>>>> banable offence that people are disagreeing with, and until you >>> consider the >>>>> other arguements logically you will never win the arguement. >>>>> >>>>> -Matt >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey look I can crosspost to AlliedModders too. FYI my Karma is >>>>>> back >>> up >>>>>> to where it was before, not like I care too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you're missing the point. Nobody is forcing you to use the >>>>>> plugin, or enforce the banlist I have up. I am being called >>>>>> self-righteous, but then being flamed and -Karma'd for something >>>>>> that >>>>>> nobody is being held at gun point to use. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you don't like it, don't use it. End of story. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. >>> >>> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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