What's the point of having the weapons tied to the achievements *at all* if you can just go into the options menu and unlock them with one mouse click?
I feel there's some compromise that could be had here, but that just makes the whole system pointless. Clyde cide wrote: > I reall do like Cc2iscool's idea. It is common ground for people on both > sides of the argument to come together on > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Maybe a better system would be to let the player decide. >> >> For instance...have an optional interface. >> >> If they change it to giving all weapons without achievements, it will give >> them all the weapons and the achievements could be for a more "fun" >> purpose. >> >> Or for the players that like getting achievements, they could have the >> option of disabling the weapons until they get enough achievements for the >> actual milestones. >> >> Honestly either way people are going to get the weapons, whether they >> "cheat" and farm them or not...so why not let the player decide what they >> want to do? >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < >> voo...@voogru.com> wrote: >> >> >>> IMO, they should just do away with the unlockables and make the new >>> >> weapons >> >>> available. >>> >>> Everybody gets them anyway, one way or another, so it's a little >>> >> pointless. >> >>> All you end up with is a corrupt achievements system where the majority >>> >> of >> >>> players farmed the achievements, solely to get the unlocks. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jake Skenna >>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:55 PM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Moving on >>> >>> I like getting them too, but the way the game has turned with people >>> banning >>> because of achievements or people downloading programs to get >>> >> achievements >> >>> is sort of ridiculous. I used to have the opposite opinion, but after the >>> fourth class update I wish they would just remove unlockables and make >>> >> them >> >>> available from the start now. >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, matan nov <tanktun...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I like doing achievements (not grinding or using plugins and such, >>>> >>> working >>> >>>> towards them) to get the weapons, the big scout/heavy/medic/pyro/etc >>>> >> boom >> >>>> only lasts a few days and everything goes back to normal, plus an extra >>>> scout or two per team for the next few weeks, not that terrible. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Brent Veal <naslund.fan...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I agree that having the new weapons available right away does make >>>>> >>> sense. >>> >>>>> Less grinding is better, and the overload of one class would end >>>>> >>> sooner. >>> >>>>> Not >>>>> to mention that new players would no longer be alienated by not >>>>> >> having >> >>>> all >>>> >>>>> the different weapons to try out right away. Although that's just my >>>>> opinion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Clyde cide < >>>>> >>>> thedrunkenbraw...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> As we have all seen the Achievements locked to weapons is a bit >>>>>> >>>> divisive >>>> >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>>> the community. I personally would like to see a split from this to >>>>>> >>> you >>> >>>>> get >>>>> >>>>>> the weapons straight out plus you have a nice amount of >>>>>> >> achievements >> >>>> that >>>> >>>>>> actually mean something other than Ive got to get these to get >>>>>> >> those >> >>>>>> weapons. I play DODS this game has 50 or so achievements that are >>>>>> >> not >> >>>>> tied >>>>> >>>>>> to weapons, imho its more fun and means more to get these >>>>>> >>> achievements. >>> >>>>>> Takes less of the pressure off to be able to compete with every one >>>>>> >>>> else. >>>> >>>>>> If we moved away from the unlockables and to just achievements and >>>>>> weapons, >>>>>> we would also kill the farming servers, the "unlocker", moronic >>>>>> >>>> plugins, >>>> >>>>>> and >>>>>> would also cut down on all 1 class all the time as seen in >>>>>> every previous update. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I feel that now is the right time to have a serious discussion on >>>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>>> matter in light of F7 clans honey pot plugin and the drama its >>>>>> >>> caused. >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> >> archives, >> >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
