Well, with a max download speed of ~1.3MBps, I don't have much of an e-penis 
to flaunt. And with a measly 768k up, I can't get it up very fast these 
days - but at my age, any day I can get it up at all is a good day :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kyle Sanderson" <kyle.l...@gmail.com>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You


> Yay for Derailed topics!
>
> Is this ever going to be set back on track? or are we just going to 
> continue
> flaunting our own e-penis's on how fast our connection is?
> Kyle.
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Michael Krasnow <mnk...@mnkras.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> same here on the normal optimum home plan i get 1.5 down also but it if i
>> am
>> downloading multiple games it shares the 1.5 over all the games.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Karl Weckstrom <k...@weckstrom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I've seen Steam download at >10MB/sec with optonline (though thats via
>> the
>> > steam client). hldsupdatetool on the other hand? lots of luck.
>> >
>> > Interestingly enough, when you configure your servers to properly
>> > autoupdate, it appears to move way faster than using hldsupdatetool, at
>> > least on my 4 FIOS servers.
>> >
>> > Also, FIOS is in a very, VERY limited area. I happen to be very lucky 
>> > to
>> > live in an area where it's Cablevision and Verizon trying to get my
>> business
>> > (so I give 'em BOTH my business since they are services that oddly 
>> > enough
>> > complement each other).
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> > hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fleener
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:13 PM
>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
>> >
>> > If you can try FiOS (mine is from Verizon) 20/5MB. It can pull over
>> > 3MB/s from Microsoft and other large boys. I think Steam must limit
>> > download speeds as I average 1.5 and I have had 3 systems downloading 
>> > at
>> > the same time and they all were getting around 1.5.
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike Fleener
>> > Macaw Enterprises
>> > 503.692.8026 (office)
>> > 503.312.4568 (cell)
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ook
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:43 PM
>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
>> >
>> > Comcast is evil. The aup/tos prevents you from so much as passing gas
>> > when using the service, heaven forbid I might actually do something 
>> > that
>> > consumes excessive bandwidth. They give you bandwidth but don't you 
>> > dare
>> > actually use any of it. Unless you have their very badly overpriced
>> > business class service. Then you get good service, pay too much for it,
>> > and their support people are retarded. Comcast is todays AOL.
>> >
>> > I have 10Mbps/768k. DSL. And more then adequate to host 16 people in my
>> > OP4 server. All unblocked, all mine to max out 24/7. I get max 
>> > bandwidth
>> > of 10mbps when downloading from Steam. And it costs me $50 a month (or
>> > is it $60? I forget...). I do wish I had more upload speed. 768k is
>> > nice, but more would be better. To be honest, I don't really need 
>> > 10mbps
>> > down. It was the only way to get the 768k up in the package.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Cc2iscooL" <cc2isc...@gmail.com>
>> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:12 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
>> >
>> >
>> > > You have to realize that some people just don't need a 100 mbit line
>> > > to their house (though it'd be neat.)
>> > >
>> > > 6mbit/768k is just fine with me. Bet you I pay a whole lot less too
>> > > unless you work for them. Sure uploads take a bit longer but when you
>> > > download stuff directly to a box instead of uploading it... It really
>> > > doesn't matter.
>> > >
>> > > Not to mention Comcast 15mbit is bursted unless you have a business
>> > > line, oh and don't forget about that download cap!
>> > >
>> > > On 7/25/09, shorec...@comcast.net <shorec...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > >> What puny speeds... Comcast speed: 15mbit/5mbit FTW! :)
>> > >>
>> > >> I usually average about 1.5 MB/sec when transfering files.
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Cc2iscooL" <cc2isc...@gmail.com>
>> > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> > >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:10:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
>> > >> Eastern
>> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
>> > >>
>> > >> It is possible to DDoS from even an aircard, it's been done to a
>> > server
>> > >> of
>> > >> mine, so even the cheapest of (non-cellular) connections could
>> > perform a
>> > >> DDoS attack. Maybe not dial-up, but you get my drift.
>> > >>
>> > >> Also, I have 6mbit/768k SBC DSL, I did not realize I had "crappy
>> > >> internet."
>> > >> Thank you for enlightening me that my connection is crappy. I'll be
>> > sure
>> > >> to
>> > >> buy a connection from Comcast or Hughesnet soon. </sarcasm>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Cc2iscooL
>> > >> Head Admin/Owner
>> > >> http://www.cc2iscool.com
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, DontWannaName!
>> > >> <ad...@topnotchclan.com>wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I didnt even know sbcglobal DSL was good enough to DDOS haha... 
>> > >>> just
>> >
>> > >>> tell
>> > >>> him he has crappy internet and to shut up.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Violent Crimes <
>> > >>> violentcri...@convictgaming.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > Here is another one attacking servers and now me personally
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> >.>
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> <.>
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> <.<
>> > >>> > -
>> > >>> > Badt0uch_ is ~badtou...@adsl-99-16-7-143.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net
>> > *
>> > >>> > Dr.Badtouch aka Feelgood
>> > >>> > Badt0uch_ on #zombiepanic #neotokyo
>> > >>> > Badt0uch_ using *.GameSurge.net The GameSurge IRC Network
>> > >>> > Badt0uch_ End of /WHOIS list.
>> > >>> > -
>> > >>> > <Violent_Crimes> What do you want
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> I get a responce eh? Hahahaha...why are you so 
>> > >>> > hostile
>> > >>> > towards me whenever I join your servers/vent XD?
>> > >>> > <Violent_Crimes> I have nothing to say to you
>> > >>> > <Violent_Crimes> What do you want
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> Im asking you a question, this is what I want an
>> > answer.
>> > >>> > <Violent_Crimes> You know what I don't like you good day
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> You're servers are ddos proof my ass
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> We will see pin prick
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_>
>> > >>> > <Badt0uch_> byw
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > His IP Address: 99.16.7.143
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:17763564
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Violent Crimes wrote:
>> > >>> > > This IP tried to DDOS attack me today
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Here is the ip. 70.74.68.168
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Traced it back to this steam id STEAM_0:0:12865230
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Link to stats page I found to trace it to him
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>>
>> > http://stats.pingdemons.com/cs/player.php?id=194&vsort=kills&vorder=asc
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Kyle Sanderson wrote:
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >> I'm in a couple community groups myself for some Torrent 
>> > >>> > >> Sites,
>> > >>> > >> Should
>> > >>> I
>> > >>> > >> leave and warn everyone in the group that some server admins
>> > are
>> > >>> > >> that
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> ignorant? Seriously? The Myg0t groups and actual hacking 
>> > >>> > >> groups
>> > >>> > >> that's
>> > >>> a
>> > >>> > no
>> > >>> > >> brainier and you will have everyone's support here. But 
>> > >>> > >> banning
>> > >>> > community
>> > >>> > >> groups who share a common interest that has nothing to do with
>> > >>> > >> games
>> > >>> > what so
>> > >>> > >> ever? Please, it is the same as banning The Teamwork Movement
>> > group
>> > >>> from
>> > >>> > >> your server...
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> Kyle.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM, D4rKr0W
>> > <dark...@dpi-clan.org>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>> Cc2iscooL ha scritto:
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>> Haxxor witch hunt.
>> > >>> > >>>> OH EM GEE IN HAXOR GROUP MUST BE HAXOR LOL BAN.
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>> I prefer to wait until they actually do that kind of thing,
>> > as
>> > >>> > >>>> some
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>> groups
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>> like that just do mass invites and/or people are just
>> > retarded
>> > >>> > >>>> and
>> > >>> > never
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>> get
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>> access to the cheats they're looking for.
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>> Not to mention stuff like Kyle here. Warez =/= hack users.
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>> Most of the guys that you're banning probably don't even use
>> > >>> > >>>> hacks. Oh well, if you want to be lazy I guess this thread 
>> > >>> > >>>> is
>> >
>> > >>> > >>>> good
>> > >>> for
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>> you.
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>> Like right now I
>> > >>> > >>>> could make a totally awesome group teh computer haxors on
>> > Steam
>> > >>> > >>>> and
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>> you guys would ban me even if I never used hacks and the
>> > group
>> > >>> > >>>> was
>> > >>> > >>>> just for the fun of it.
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>>>
>> > >>> > >>> Whether these guys actually have bad intentions or are just
>> > plain
>> > >>> dumb,
>> > >>> > >>> i don't really care, both of these are good enough excuses 
>> > >>> > >>> not
>> > to
>> > >>> want
>> > >>> > >>> them ruining my games, assuming they'll ever join the servers
>> > i
>> > >>> > >>> take
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> care of. Plus, i think we already have our hands full with
>> > buggy
>> > >>> > >>> gameservers, buggy games, angry teenagers and all the lovely
>> > >>> > >>> things
>> > >>> > that
>> > >>> > >>> come out from the mix of these three things.
>> > >>> > >>>
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