Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own hardware for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support this?
Kyle. On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm <xfactorserv...@live.ca>wrote: > > Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb of > memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save you > alot of hassle. > > > From: ooksser...@zootal.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > > > It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully > loaded > > OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it > ain't > > broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money > upgrading > > the box. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bryce Quilley" <br...@ngn.net.au> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > > > > > > Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB ram > > > for > > > it to function. > > > Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was > > > NEVER > > > intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram > > > will > > > run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson > > > <kyle.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > >> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up than > > >> 2003. > > >> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I would > be > > >> shocked if it did), please let us know! > > >> > > >> Kyle. > > >> > > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has > > >> > as-is. > > >> > > > >> > I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there empty > - > > >> and > > >> > it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the > linux > > >> > hlds > > >> > binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to > > >> > optimize > > >> > them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm > leaning > > >> > towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server 2008 > > >> > that > > >> I > > >> > think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone how > > >> lousy > > >> > it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and > > >> > actually > > >> > work good? > > >> > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "Kyle Sanderson" <kyle.l...@gmail.com> > > >> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > >> > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > >> > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM > > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS? > > >> > > > > >> > > If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only > gets > > >> > > sloppier > > >> > > with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although from > my > > >> > > experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.) > > >> > > Kyle. > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen > > >> > > <molaugh...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> Add more RAM. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> > wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use for > to > > >> run > > >> > >> > an > > >> > >> > OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With > Win2000 > > >> > >> > and > > >> > >> > both > > >> > >> > servers full, cpu is about 30%. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I > > >> > >> > noticed > > >> a > > >> > >> > significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver 2003 > > >> > >> > box, > > >> it > > >> > >> used > > >> > >> > 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in server > > >> > >> > 2003 > > >> > >> > has > > >> > >> > more overhead and the context switches were using up all the > extra > > >> > cpu. > > >> > >> My > > >> > >> > second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On both > > >> > >> > installations > > >> > >> > I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may be > too > > >> old > > >> > >> > to > > >> > >> > run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm > not > > >> sure > > >> > >> > it > > >> > >> > would be any better under 2008. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older > hardware > > >> re. > > >> > >> > performance? > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, > > >> > >> > please visit: > > >> > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > >> archives, > > >> > >> please visit: > > >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > > archives, > > >> > > please visit: > > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >> > please visit: > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _________________________________________________________________ > New! 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