I colocated with Colo4Dallas for many years, and never had anything but awesome service. I don't colocate now, but if the need should ever arise, that's where I'd go again.
-----Original Message----- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware i guess but they are highly customizable and the service isnt bad at all On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rens Ariens <r...@serververhuur.com>wrote: > Leaseweb is known for their prices, not for their support. > > > > Michael Krasnow schreef: > > you could also try leaseweb > > > > http://www.leaseweb.com/en/colocation > > > > they have great service > > > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, turb0z <tur...@undergamer.com> wrote: > > > >> Depends on the case form factor. If you have a rack case you should be > >> able > >> to find a host to take your hardware, just be ready to agree to their > >> support structure around owning your own equipment (some places won't > offer > >> much in support). > >> > >> I host my 1U Quad Core with colocrossing.com and have been very > satisfied. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle > Sanderson > >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:26 AM > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > >> > >> Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own > hardware > >> for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support this? > >> > >> Kyle. > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm > >> <xfactorserv...@live.ca>wrote: > >> > >>> Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb of > >>> memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save > you > >>> alot of hassle. > >>> > >>>> From: ooksser...@zootal.com > >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > >>>> > >>>> It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully > >>> loaded > >>>> OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it > >>> ain't > >>>> broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money > >>> upgrading > >>>> the box. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Bryce Quilley" <br...@ngn.net.au> > >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB > >> ram > >>>>> for > >>>>> it to function. > >>>>> Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was > >>>>> NEVER > >>>>> intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB > >> ram > >>>>> will > >>>>> run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson > >>>>> <kyle.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up > >> than > >>>>>> 2003. > >>>>>> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I > >> would > >>> be > >>>>>> shocked if it did), please let us know! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kyle. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has > >>>>>>> as-is. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there > >> empty > >>> - > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>> it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the > >>> linux > >>>>>>> hlds > >>>>>>> binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to > >>>>>>> optimize > >>>>>>> them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm > >>> leaning > >>>>>>> towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server > >> 2008 > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>> I > >>>>>>> think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone > >> how > >>>>>> lousy > >>>>>>> it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and > >>>>>>> actually > >>>>>>> work good? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: "Kyle Sanderson" <kyle.l...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >>>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older > >> hardware > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only > >>> gets > >>>>>>>> sloppier > >>>>>>>> with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although from > >>> my > >>>>>>>> experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.) > >>>>>>>> Kyle. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen > >>>>>>>> <molaugh...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Add more RAM. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use > >> for > >>> to > >>>>>> run > >>>>>>>>>> an > >>>>>>>>>> OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With > >>> Win2000 > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> both > >>>>>>>>>> servers full, cpu is about 30%. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I > >>>>>>>>>> noticed > >>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver > >> 2003 > >>>>>>>>>> box, > >>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> used > >>>>>>>>>> 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in > >> server > >>>>>>>>>> 2003 > >>>>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>>>> more overhead and the context switches were using up all the > >>> extra > >>>>>>> cpu. > >>>>>>>>> My > >>>>>>>>>> second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On > >> both > >>>>>>>>>> installations > >>>>>>>>>> I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may > >> be > >>> too > >>>>>> old > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm > >>> not > >>>>>> sure > >>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>> would be any better under 2008. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older > >>> hardware > >>>>>> re. > >>>>>>>>>> performance? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> New! 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