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Michael Krasnow schreef:
> you could also try leaseweb
> 
> http://www.leaseweb.com/en/colocation
> 
> they have great service
> 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, turb0z <tur...@undergamer.com> wrote:
> 
>> Depends on the case form factor.  If you have a rack case you should be
>> able
>> to find a host to take your hardware, just be ready to agree to their
>> support structure around owning your own equipment (some places won't offer
>> much in support).
>>
>> I host my 1U Quad Core with colocrossing.com and have been very satisfied.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:26 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
>>
>> Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own hardware
>> for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support this?
>>
>> Kyle.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm
>> <xfactorserv...@live.ca>wrote:
>>
>>> Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core /  2gb of
>>> memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save you
>>> alot of hassle.
>>>
>>>> From: ooksser...@zootal.com
>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
>>>>
>>>> It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully
>>> loaded
>>>> OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it
>>> ain't
>>>> broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money
>>> upgrading
>>>> the box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bryce Quilley" <br...@ngn.net.au>
>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB
>> ram
>>>>> for
>>>>> it to function.
>>>>> Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was
>>>>> NEVER
>>>>> intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB
>> ram
>>>>> will
>>>>> run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson
>>>>> <kyle.l...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up
>> than
>>>>>> 2003.
>>>>>> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I
>> would
>>> be
>>>>>> shocked if it did), please let us know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kyle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has
>>>>>>> as-is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there
>> empty
>>> -
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the
>>> linux
>>>>>>> hlds
>>>>>>> binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to
>>>>>>> optimize
>>>>>>> them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm
>>> leaning
>>>>>>> towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server
>> 2008
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone
>> how
>>>>>> lousy
>>>>>>> it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> work good?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kyle Sanderson" <kyle.l...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older
>> hardware
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only
>>> gets
>>>>>>>> sloppier
>>>>>>>> with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although from
>>> my
>>>>>>>> experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.)
>>>>>>>> Kyle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen
>>>>>>>> <molaugh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Add more RAM.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use
>> for
>>> to
>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With
>>> Win2000
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>> servers full, cpu is about 30%.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I
>>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver
>> 2003
>>>>>>>>>> box,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in
>> server
>>>>>>>>>> 2003
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> more overhead and the context switches were using up all the
>>> extra
>>>>>>> cpu.
>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>> second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On
>> both
>>>>>>>>>> installations
>>>>>>>>>> I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may
>> be
>>> too
>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm
>>> not
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> would be any better under 2008.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older
>>> hardware
>>>>>> re.
>>>>>>>>>> performance?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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