No offense, but this whole list sucks at problem solving, every single idea to deal with this issue suggested in this thread is just terrible, absolutely terrible.
You can't disable clientside plugins just because a few admins are too lazy to want to install a plugin to block people using clientside plugins. People have the right to install clientside addons just as server administrators have the right to install whatever addons they want on their server. It's easy for you morons to want to impose this on everyone without seeing any consequences, Valve actually has to deal with the complaints from their customers who use legitimate uses for their plugins. Why don't you let professionals with their own companies reputation on the line deal with this intense decision making process. Suggesting valve should add a cvar to disable people with plugins is dumb, there's already plugins out there that does exactly this, go install it and quit complaining. Don't make Valve spent their time babying the few admins too stupid to know how to set up a serious dedicated server. This issue is basically the equivalent to the material hacks that are possible to use anywhere on servers that have sv_pure set to 0 still. It's not a big deal in the scope of things, and theres already ways of dealing with it. Now quit acting like this is Valve's fault and go back to blaming hackers and cheaters for your in-game shortcomings. Arg! wrote: > I doubt making a cvar would work as the plugins could simply override > it as they do now. > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Saul Rennison <saul.renni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you aren't modifying game memory (i.e. hooking functions), then VAC won't >> mind. >> >> Thanks, >> - Saul. >> >> >> On 31 March 2010 16:00, Keeper <hl2li...@afksoftware.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I don't know how VAC works, but if it's loaded via a client side plugin, I >>> doubt VAC sees it as an "external" program altering the game's memory >>> space. >>> But not knowing how VAC works, there's no telling what they look for or how >>> they are detecting it. >>> >>> Keeper >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Michael Krasnow [mailto:mnk...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:31 PM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. >>> >>> doesn't VAC check the memory? but +1 to the option for server admins, but >>> somehow someone would find a way to change that or spoof it, idk, its >>> weirds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4989 (20100331) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4993 (20100401) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
