Thanks for the info - do you have any idea offhand which ones would cause
them to intermingle improperly?

For what it's worth, we're running the Aimbot/AutoTrigger/Spinhack
detectors, Client Protection, Command Monitor, ConVar Checker, Eye Angle
Test, and Anti-Speedhack SMAC modules.

I don't expect you to necessarily have answers for any/all of the above,
but I figure it's worth asking, especially for anyone wanting to know in
the future. I did google before bothering to ask, I just came up with no
prefab answers to the question.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Kyle Sanderson <kyle.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Depends on which SMAC modules you're planning on/are using.
>
> Should be fine though.
> Kyle.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Jeff Sugar <jeffsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it safe/okay to use dblocker along with smac? Or is it like antivirus
>> applications in that having more than one can result in undesirable
>> complications?
>>  On Jan 30, 2012 4:13 AM, "Drogen Viech" <drogenvi...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can both be used together without problems? I would disable automatic
>>> banning in one of them of course.
>>>
>>> 2012/1/30 AnAkIn . <anakin...@gmail.com>:
>>> > DBlocker can detect more cheats than SMAC. One of the most used public
>>> > cheats is detected by DBlocker.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2012/1/30 Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> I was reading the Kigen forums and a lot of people are banned for
>>> >> "sv_consistency" errors, which could be as simple as just having a
>>> skin on a
>>> >> server that doesn't allow them.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hilarious.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Admin <essential...@bigpond.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> LMFAO Kigen's anticheat is obsolete and Kiegen forces you to use his
>>> >>> server
>>> >>> with his conditions. There is no leeway or allowances for independent
>>> >>> control over banning and you are forced to kigens global banning
>>> system.
>>> >>> There is no decent support less being dictated too. I highly
>>> recommend
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> one avoids this system entirely
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SMAC is far more superior and has no restrictions or limitations. It
>>> is
>>> >>> constantly updated and when an issue is found it is mostly corrected
>>> >>> immediately upon the team reading the issues
>>> >>>
>>> >>> SMAC can be found at allied modders
>>> >>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=156872
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have tried both cheat systems and found KAC to be lacking and
>>> missed 8
>>> >>> out
>>> >>> of ten simulated cheats. SMAC prevented 10 out of ten and allows you
>>> to
>>> >>> freely configure its uses without being forced to use a global
>>> system.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike @
>>> BOOM!
>>> >>> Sent: Monday, 30 January 2012 12:56 PM
>>> >>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I was like you when it came to dealing with cheaters. I was so sick
>>> of
>>> >>> them
>>> >>> I almost stopped hosting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The came SourceBans and Kigen's AC. For the past 2+ years we have
>>> used
>>> >>> SourceBans: www.sourcebans.net to handle our Admin management and
>>> bans
>>> >>> list
>>> >>> on a global community level. Banned in one server means banned in
>>> all our
>>> >>> servers when using SourceBans. We also use the Steambans SBSRC
>>> Plugin at:
>>> >>> www.steambans.com, which is another global ban list with 1000's of
>>> banned
>>> >>> cheater SteamIDs in it. Finally and most importantly, there are two
>>> cheat
>>> >>> detection plugins that block and ban a ton of cheaters for us. The
>>> >>> original
>>> >>> Kigen's Anticheat: http://www.kigenac.com/ SourceMod plugin
>>> >>> (wonderful!!!)
>>> >>> and the newer SourceMod Anticheat (SMAC), spun off of Kigen's
>>> platform.
>>> >>> Both
>>> >>> Kigen's and SMAC integrate seamlessly with Sourcebans to perma-ban
>>> >>> suspect
>>> >>> cheaters without an Admin being in the server. I can't say enough
>>> about
>>> >>> Kigen and his wonderful work. It really has saved our asses and it's
>>> very
>>> >>> cool to see players being banned when they cheat when Admins are in
>>> the
>>> >>> server. It's like having an Admin who is spectating every player on
>>> every
>>> >>> server 24/7!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> By running a global ban management system like SourceBans and having
>>> >>> real-time cheat detection of the likes of Kigen's AC or SMAC, we have
>>> >>> virtually eliminated the need for Admins most of the time. Sure and
>>> >>> occasional player is missed when using some cheat we can't T detect,
>>> but
>>> >>> this is so rare we don't worry that much about it. You can even
>>> download
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> banlists from other communities who make them available on their
>>> >>> Sourcebans
>>> >>> site so you don't have to start from scratch.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Check out the links and let me know if you have any questions.
>>> >>> Mike
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rob Liu
>>> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:45 PM
>>> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Price of the game going free to play.  Servers get more traffic, but
>>> no
>>> >>> other way to deal with persistent cheaters and griefers.  Ban has
>>> lost
>>> >>> its
>>> >>> meaning.  There is nothing we can do as server owners.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Valve really need to figure something out.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 1/30/12, hlds <h...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> >>> > I had once a problem with a guy that had many F2P accounts and as
>>> >>> > provider one of the biggest from my country (dynamic IPs and
>>> >>> > impossible to ban), but I was lucky to find out that he also had a
>>> web
>>> >>> > server hosted on his computer. I did a script to check every 5
>>> minutes
>>> >>> > the IP for that site and to update a firewall rule, but usually you
>>> >>> > can't do nothing, except to have some nice words for Valve and as
>>> many
>>> >>> admins as possible.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I don't understand why this is not a top priority thing for Valve,
>>> >>> > because a cheater with speedhack can empty a server in few
>>> minutes. At
>>> >>> > least we should have access to some hardware fingerprint or
>>> something
>>> >>> > like
>>> >>> this.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Alexander Z
>>> >>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:42 PM
>>> >>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >>> > Subject: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > The kind with dynamic IPs, lots of F2P accounts and time to spare.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Any tips on dealing with them?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
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>>> >
>>> > --
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