You should find out pretty fast if they conflict with each other if you try (though it does increase the total cpu usage obviously), although personally I think it's reduant.
We're using SMAC as that's actively developed (being a fork of KAC as far I understand and all?). KAC itself hadn't been updated in awhile and the KAC forums seems very stagnated but who knows what pops up in the future. I personally find myself a little suspicious of dblock though due to the lack of source code available. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jeff Sugar <jeffsu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Er, the primary reason I asked was to avoid the try and see approach, > which could lead to a multitude of undesirable and/or unnoticeable results > :( For example, the server may crash the very next time a hacker enters the > server, whether that be tomorrow or a month from now. It's also entirely > possible that, rather than crashing, it could stop either system from > properly detecting and dealing with a detection. > > There are plenty of others, but those are the first two that popped into > my head. I'm not saying it shouldn't be tested, but I have a feeling > there's at least one person out there who has already done so in order to > save others the trouble of just blindly trying it. > > > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:38 AM, AnAkIn . <anakin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Try it and see. >> >> >> 2012/1/30 Jeff Sugar <jeffsu...@gmail.com> >> >>> Is it safe/okay to use dblocker along with smac? Or is it like antivirus >>> applications in that having more than one can result in undesirable >>> complications? >>> On Jan 30, 2012 4:13 AM, "Drogen Viech" <drogenvi...@googlemail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Can both be used together without problems? I would disable automatic >>>> banning in one of them of course. >>>> >>>> 2012/1/30 AnAkIn . <anakin...@gmail.com>: >>>> > DBlocker can detect more cheats than SMAC. One of the most used public >>>> > cheats is detected by DBlocker. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2012/1/30 Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>>> >> I was reading the Kigen forums and a lot of people are banned for >>>> >> "sv_consistency" errors, which could be as simple as just having a >>>> skin on a >>>> >> server that doesn't allow them. >>>> >> >>>> >> Hilarious. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Admin <essential...@bigpond.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> LMFAO Kigen's anticheat is obsolete and Kiegen forces you to use his >>>> >>> server >>>> >>> with his conditions. There is no leeway or allowances for >>>> independent >>>> >>> control over banning and you are forced to kigens global banning >>>> system. >>>> >>> There is no decent support less being dictated too. I highly >>>> recommend >>>> >>> that >>>> >>> one avoids this system entirely >>>> >>> >>>> >>> SMAC is far more superior and has no restrictions or limitations. >>>> It is >>>> >>> constantly updated and when an issue is found it is mostly corrected >>>> >>> immediately upon the team reading the issues >>>> >>> >>>> >>> SMAC can be found at allied modders >>>> >>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=<http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=156872> >>>> 36 >>>> 384 >>>> <http://www.indiedb.com/games/noxious> >>>> >>>> Hey reddit gaming here is a ga <http://www.indiedb.com/games/noxious> >>>> 156872 <http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=156872> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I have tried both cheat systems and found KAC to be lacking and >>>> missed 8 >>>> >>> out >>>> >>> of ten simulated cheats. SMAC prevented 10 out of ten and allows >>>> you to >>>> >>> freely configure its uses without being forced to use a global >>>> system. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike @ >>>> BOOM! >>>> >>> Sent: Monday, 30 January 2012 12:56 PM >>>> >>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters >>>> >>>index <http://www.kigenac.com/index.php> >>>> >>> I was like you when it came to dealing with cheaters. I was so sick >>>> of >>>> >>> them >>>> >>> I almost stopped hosting. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The came SourceBans and Kigen's AC. For the past 2+ years we have >>>> used >>>> >>> SourceBans: www.sourcebans.net to handle our Admin management and >>>> bans >>>> >>> list >>>> >>> on a global community level. Banned in one server means banned in >>>> all our >>>> >>> servers when using SourceBans. We also use the Steambans SBSRC >>>> Plugin at: >>>> >>> www.steambans.com, which is another global ban list with 1000's of >>>> banned >>>> >>> cheater SteamIDs in it. Finally and most importantly, there are two >>>> cheat >>>> >>> detection plugins that block and ban a ton of cheaters for us. The >>>> >>> original >>>> >>> Kigen's Anticheat: http://www.kigenac.com/ SourceMod plugin >>>> >>> (wonderful!!!) >>>> >>> and the newer SourceMod Anticheat (SMAC), spun off of Kigen's >>>> platform. >>>> >>> Both >>>> >>> Kigen's and SMAC integrate seamlessly with Sourcebans to perma-ban >>>> >>> suspect >>>> >>> cheaters without an Admin being in the server. I can't say enough >>>> about >>>> >>> Kigen and his wonderful work. It really has saved our asses and >>>> it's very >>>> >>> cool to see players being banned when they cheat when Admins are in >>>> the >>>> >>> server. It's like having an Admin who is spectating every player on >>>> every >>>> >>> server 24/7! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> By running a global ban management system like SourceBans and having >>>> >>> real-time cheat detection of the likes of Kigen's AC or SMAC, we >>>> have >>>> >>> virtually eliminated the need for Admins most of the time. Sure and >>>> >>> occasional player is missed when using some cheat we can't T >>>> detect, but >>>> >>> this is so rare we don't worry that much about it. You can even >>>> download >>>> >>> the >>>> >>> banlists from other communities who make them available on their >>>> >>> Sourcebans >>>> >>> site so you don't have to start from scratch. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Check out the links and let me know if you have any questions. >>>> >>> Mike >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rob Liu >>>> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:45 PM >>>> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Price of the game going free to play. Servers get more traffic, >>>> but no >>>> >>> other way to deal with persistent cheaters and griefers. Ban has >>>> lost >>>> >>> its >>>> >>> meaning. There is nothing we can do as server owners. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Valve really need to figure something out. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On 1/30/12, hlds <h...@gmx.com> wrote: >>>> >>> > I had once a problem with a guy that had many F2P accounts and as >>>> >>> > provider one of the biggest from my country (dynamic IPs and >>>> >>> > impossible to ban), but I was lucky to find out that he also had >>>> a web >>>> >>> > server hosted on his computer. I did a script to check every 5 >>>> minutes >>>> >>> > the IP for that site and to update a firewall rule, but usually >>>> you >>>> >>> > can't do nothing, except to have some nice words for Valve and as >>>> many >>>> >>> admins as possible. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > I don't understand why this is not a top priority thing for Valve, >>>> >>> > because a cheater with speedhack can empty a server in few >>>> minutes. At >>>> >>> > least we should have access to some hardware fingerprint or >>>> something >>>> >>> > like >>>> >>> this. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> >>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Alexander Z >>>> >>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:42 PM >>>> >>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> >>> > Subject: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > The kind with dynamic IPs, lots of F2P accounts and time to spare. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Any tips on dealing with them? >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> >>> please visit: >>>> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> >>> please visit: >>>> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> >>> please visit: >>>> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> >> please visit: >>>> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > AnAkIn >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> > please visit: >>>> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> AnAkIn >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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