Try it and see. 2012/1/30 Jeff Sugar <jeffsu...@gmail.com>
> Is it safe/okay to use dblocker along with smac? Or is it like antivirus > applications in that having more than one can result in undesirable > complications? > On Jan 30, 2012 4:13 AM, "Drogen Viech" <drogenvi...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> Can both be used together without problems? I would disable automatic >> banning in one of them of course. >> >> 2012/1/30 AnAkIn . <anakin...@gmail.com>: >> > DBlocker can detect more cheats than SMAC. One of the most used public >> > cheats is detected by DBlocker. >> > >> > >> > 2012/1/30 Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> I was reading the Kigen forums and a lot of people are banned for >> >> "sv_consistency" errors, which could be as simple as just having a >> skin on a >> >> server that doesn't allow them. >> >> >> >> Hilarious. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Admin <essential...@bigpond.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> LMFAO Kigen's anticheat is obsolete and Kiegen forces you to use his >> >>> server >> >>> with his conditions. There is no leeway or allowances for independent >> >>> control over banning and you are forced to kigens global banning >> system. >> >>> There is no decent support less being dictated too. I highly recommend >> >>> that >> >>> one avoids this system entirely >> >>> >> >>> SMAC is far more superior and has no restrictions or limitations. It >> is >> >>> constantly updated and when an issue is found it is mostly corrected >> >>> immediately upon the team reading the issues >> >>> >> >>> SMAC can be found at allied modders >> >>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=156872 >> >>> >> >>> I have tried both cheat systems and found KAC to be lacking and >> missed 8 >> >>> out >> >>> of ten simulated cheats. SMAC prevented 10 out of ten and allows you >> to >> >>> freely configure its uses without being forced to use a global system. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike @ >> BOOM! >> >>> Sent: Monday, 30 January 2012 12:56 PM >> >>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters >> >>> >> >>> I was like you when it came to dealing with cheaters. I was so sick of >> >>> them >> >>> I almost stopped hosting. >> >>> >> >>> The came SourceBans and Kigen's AC. For the past 2+ years we have used >> >>> SourceBans: www.sourcebans.net to handle our Admin management and >> bans >> >>> list >> >>> on a global community level. Banned in one server means banned in all >> our >> >>> servers when using SourceBans. We also use the Steambans SBSRC Plugin >> at: >> >>> www.steambans.com, which is another global ban list with 1000's of >> banned >> >>> cheater SteamIDs in it. Finally and most importantly, there are two >> cheat >> >>> detection plugins that block and ban a ton of cheaters for us. The >> >>> original >> >>> Kigen's Anticheat: http://www.kigenac.com/ SourceMod plugin >> >>> (wonderful!!!) >> >>> and the newer SourceMod Anticheat (SMAC), spun off of Kigen's >> platform. >> >>> Both >> >>> Kigen's and SMAC integrate seamlessly with Sourcebans to perma-ban >> >>> suspect >> >>> cheaters without an Admin being in the server. I can't say enough >> about >> >>> Kigen and his wonderful work. It really has saved our asses and it's >> very >> >>> cool to see players being banned when they cheat when Admins are in >> the >> >>> server. It's like having an Admin who is spectating every player on >> every >> >>> server 24/7! >> >>> >> >>> By running a global ban management system like SourceBans and having >> >>> real-time cheat detection of the likes of Kigen's AC or SMAC, we have >> >>> virtually eliminated the need for Admins most of the time. Sure and >> >>> occasional player is missed when using some cheat we can't T detect, >> but >> >>> this is so rare we don't worry that much about it. You can even >> download >> >>> the >> >>> banlists from other communities who make them available on their >> >>> Sourcebans >> >>> site so you don't have to start from scratch. >> >>> >> >>> Check out the links and let me know if you have any questions. >> >>> Mike >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rob Liu >> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:45 PM >> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters >> >>> >> >>> Price of the game going free to play. Servers get more traffic, but >> no >> >>> other way to deal with persistent cheaters and griefers. Ban has lost >> >>> its >> >>> meaning. There is nothing we can do as server owners. >> >>> >> >>> Valve really need to figure something out. >> >>> >> >>> On 1/30/12, hlds <h...@gmx.com> wrote: >> >>> > I had once a problem with a guy that had many F2P accounts and as >> >>> > provider one of the biggest from my country (dynamic IPs and >> >>> > impossible to ban), but I was lucky to find out that he also had a >> web >> >>> > server hosted on his computer. I did a script to check every 5 >> minutes >> >>> > the IP for that site and to update a firewall rule, but usually you >> >>> > can't do nothing, except to have some nice words for Valve and as >> many >> >>> admins as possible. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > I don't understand why this is not a top priority thing for Valve, >> >>> > because a cheater with speedhack can empty a server in few minutes. >> At >> >>> > least we should have access to some hardware fingerprint or >> something >> >>> > like >> >>> this. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of >> Alexander Z >> >>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:42 PM >> >>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> >>> > Subject: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > The kind with dynamic IPs, lots of F2P accounts and time to spare. >> >>> > >> >>> > Any tips on dealing with them? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>> please visit: >> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>> please visit: >> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>> please visit: >> >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > AnAkIn >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- Best regards, AnAkIn
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