I have video recordings from multiple servers of yours showing that over and over 100 percent of the time the Blu and Red respawn times are decreased and always the exact same amount of time. Your tags do reflect any of this. If you are not aware of this you better check your servers because you sure are in violation. I submitted the report to Valve.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Simon" <bluebriansi...@gmail.com> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:05:31 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Policy of Truth Still in effect? Fast Respawn without tags OK? LotusClan does nothing of the sort. We are in complete compliance with the Policy of Truth. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Todd Pettit < pettit.t...@gmail.com > wrote: Sweet Lord. Lotusclan and Skial are doing it so are Wonkagaming.net and so is Battlegrounds who is coincidentally using fake clients as well and they sure as hell know they are in violation because they have all been de-listed for using fake clients. That right there is 250-300 flagrant violators. You don't think lotus and skial knew what they were doing when they renamed their plugins? Both of them have 8 sec Blue team respawns and no sv_tags. How hard is it to understand if you break the policy you are in violation. It is black and white if you are too lazy to learn scripting and do not check the effects of a plugin you purchase you are still ultimately responsible for your servers. So yes you should be de-listed if it was caught. They do not send you a warning for fake clients. Ignorance is not an excuse if you are incompetent. "Luckily - cooler heads usually prevail with the TF2 team, and they have the added benefit of seeing the big picture (and all the underlying player-data that denotes which servers players like)." You mean they like servers which manipulate the system to gain a competitive advantage. If you don't know the speed limit does that excuse you from a speeding ticket? NO! ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Olsen" < ceo.eol...@gmail.com > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:46:26 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Policy of Truth Still in effect? Fast Respawn without tags OK? I just think people have to be careful in thinking that everything comes down to back & white. I'll give you a specific example: A few months ago when I had the fast respawn plugin we use re-written by a Sorucemod coder to insure it added the proper sv_tags, an error was introduced that went unnoticed for almost 6 weeks. For some reason, whatever the coder did (which, I have no idea, I have to pay freelancers to get these things done for me) somehow caused the "increased_maxplayers" tag to disappear when it added the "respawntimes" tag, even though my servers were set above 24 slots. Now, that is something I certainly did not intend to do (I didn't even think it was possible, as that's hard-coded into the engine), and I only happened to notice it when checking our servers in the browser one day. Now, as soon as I saw that, I contacted the coder and he found/fixed the error that caused it - but I certainly wasn't trying to game the system, it was an innocent coding error. Should everyone be aware of the rules? Sure - but unless it's something truly intentional and nefarious like the fake clients thing described above, then outright bans of servers is extreme. I agree ignorance of the law is not an excuse, but the last time I checked we didn't put jaywalkers in front of firing squads either. There needs to be a reasonable level of response to these types of things. A written warning with X amount of time to comply (with graduating consequences for non-compliance such as revoking quickplay eligibility, temporary delisting, followed by a perma-ban) is absolutely appropriate and acceptable. Those server operators that are less-tech savvy than others may someday put a plugin on their server that (as the example I noted above) causes unintended non-compliance in one or more areas, without their knowledge. A simple warning to these folks would go a long way towards preserving goodwill in the server community as a whole. Luckily - cooler heads usually prevail with the TF2 team, and they have the added benefit of seeing the big picture (and all the underlying player-data that denotes which servers players like). _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
