How is partnering with pinion any different than Taco Bell selling Choco tacos 
from klondike, Mountain Dew, or Doritos Taco Shells? 

My servers are the best servers because I monitor them offer the best plugins 
my users prefer and promote regular events where I give away prizes from the 
money pinion pays me.

Sooo... Diluted it is not. I have never got pissed at a restaurant cause they 
didn't make their own soda. Its cheaper and allows them to make a greater 
profit. I don't see people protesting.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Smith" <ve...@tinylittlerobots.us>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:32:45 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?

The difference is Red Bull is going out and promoting themselves. You're 
not promoting yourself when you show an ad in your motd. Instead you're 
promoting someone else and diluting your community brand.

I feel like this crosses a line where you're no longer trying to run a 
community, but rather run a business.  At that point it seems like the 
players are being used to feed the business instead of persuaded to stay 
by running a place that is welcoming and fun.

This is my gut feeling as a player.  I also feel like this reflects 
poorly on not only the server, but on Valve as the developer for 
allowing this in the game.  I can't imagine that was their intention 
when they put in the web browser for the motd.

On 8/10/2012 6:58 PM, Todd Pettit wrote:
> I am? You think pinion is getting bigger and bigger sponsors every week 
> because its a failed idea?
>
> You think Red Bull are idiots for having plane races, modifiying mini 
> coopers, hiring models, buying a arena football team, hiring a man to jump a 
> ramp on a motorcycle on New Years Eve and running thousands of ads until 
> every single one of us cannot possibly forget the phrase "Red Bull Gives You 
> Wings"?!?
>
> Well sir you need an education in Economics 101 or you better start thinking 
> about what trade school you want to attend.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DontWannaName!" <ad...@topnotchclan.com>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:41:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?
>
> You are naive...
>
>


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