I offered the opportunity to keep the mailing list from further griefing,
you seem to wish for this to continue that's of course your choice. I guess
the phrase is correct, "never argue with an idiot or they'll bring you down
to their level and beat you with experience". I agree, now you mention it,
that the first original image could've also been faked, so either story may
not be correct. Either way, it seems certain people on here now have a
massive hate towards me even though I did not start this, so to end this
I'm just going to stick to the forums, and ignore all further replies on
here other than those from Valve employees. Good luck everyone and long
live your battle with each other. Lastly, I don't see where your proof is
about your claim of me being upset about the Pinion issue, I couldn't care
about Pinion, it's more what they may have done with the MOTD if that
information had been true.


On 1 April 2013 13:05, Steve Gonzolos <steve.go...@live.com> wrote:

>
>  I just looked at both and either one can be a fake. when I look at the
> tone of the messages from the person you claim to  genuine poster
> mreeuw...@yahoo.com or mart-jan reeuwiik it seems like he was the person
> making the false claim and creating the vial spoof and starting the
> argument. coupling that with the fact that you want to make this a private
> conversation should make anyone with common sense see who is lying or at
> least trying to hide the truth. you also seem to be upset that mr.wardon
> has shed lite on that pinion issue. shame on you.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: ubyu....@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:53:25 +0100
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>
> If you look on the other thread '[hlds] Suggestion and query regarding
> MOTD' on this mailing list you'll find that he claimed someone sent him a
> rude reply via email, when he originally sent one to a genuine poster
> there. He copied the screenshot that the genuine poster took, didn't bother
> to change the date/time of the message and simply added his own message,
> whilst resizing the email text as it was too big for the box.
>
> Original message the genuine poster received from Mr.Wardon:
> http://imgur.com/NzIvh9D
> Mr.Wardon's received a message from the genuine poster (compare the
> screenshots closely): http://imgur.com/JY1ndz9
>
> It's on the other thread, about 23 hours or so from the date/time of
> posting this message. So Viktor, before you make accusations about me, I
> advise you read messages posted here :). Many thanks. If you want, further
> communications regarding this matter can be emailed directly to me, so as
> to avoid further off-topic discussion on the mailing list.
>
>
> On 1 April 2013 12:46, Viktor Anely <viktoran...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> what proof do you have? you say he has falsified information hows that? it
> seems to me like you want to lie about him because he informed us about
> you, that's kinda weak. anyway it doesn't matter you on that list of people
> to block so you being blocked. I just wanted to point out that making false
> accusations seems to be what you do.
>
>
>
> Paul (ubyu....@gmail.com)
> Schedule cleanup <https://blu152.mail.live.com/mail/#>
> 6:27 AM
> Groups <https://blu152.mail.live.com/mail/#>
>  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> [image: Picture of Paul]
> From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com* on behalf of *Paul* (
> ubyu....@gmail.com) This sender is in your safe 
> list<https://blu152.mail.live.com/mail/options.aspx?subsection=6&n=1878637110&selection=ubyu.net%40gmail.com%7chlds-bounces%40list.valvesoftware.com>
> . Sent:Mon 4/01/13 6:27 AMTo: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing
> list (hlds@list.valvesoftware.com)
> Agreed. Furthermore for me to be accused of spam without actual proof is
> quite pathetic Mr.Wardon, you've shown yourself up to falsify information
> and/or evidence and initiate invalid arguments between users here, your
> reputation here leaves much to be desired on this mailing list. I think I'm
> going to follow Derek's move, by filtering, as it seems that this list
> isn't maintained from keeping spammers out as much as the forum is.
>
> Anyway on topic, SRCDS can handle 32 players but with some possible change
> in the performance, stability and the resource consumption. In Team
> Fortress 2 it's advised to use a maximum of 24 players, but there's no harm
> in having more than 24 should you wish to do so.
>
>
> On 1 April 2013 08:46, Viktor Anely <viktoran...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the list of asshats and the heads up on the spammer. Maybe
> Valve will deal with that list and clean up the riff raff trolling around
> here.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: crapware.war...@hotmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:42:26 -0500
>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>
> Obviously that was a spoofed email.
>
> Ahh the joys of mailing list trolls. So apparently Dr.McKay has been
> spoofing again. His ip address (137.118.16.55) has been tagged as known
> spam provider by spamhaus and his isp ( Neonova Network Services) has been
> notified of his illicit activities. Enjoy finding another isp.
>
> Furthermore he has been unsubscribing people from this mailing list. I
> would hope that's a ban-able offence.
>
> Someone that would do that makes one wonder about what other little
> activities they would be upto... hmm SourceMod stealing steam accounts
> maybe? Obviously something he has attempted by his statements about using
> the steam popup to alter steam group memberships.
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
> From: crapware.war...@hotmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:13:19 +0200
> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>
> I would like to say that i am sorry for being such a dumbass and 
> misinforming, aswell as troll and a guy that flames for fun. I should 
> probably keep my crap off this mailing list.
>
>
>
>
>
> With love.
> --------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:51:34 -0500
> > From: Crapware Wardon <crapware.war...@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> > To: "hlds@list.valvesoftware.com" <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>
>
>
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>
>
> > Message-ID: <blu152-w429be295e1e4cf08bc992de1...@phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > In response to... Harsh Baid (harshbai...@gmail.com) Hi Harsh,     As you 
> > can see
>
>
>
>
>
> > from the previous response posts from the kids on this mailing list, they 
> > follow
> > the "If you cant dazzle them with footwork baffle them with bullshit" rule.
> > Of course you will see a performance hit with more players, however it will 
> > be
>
>
>
>
>
> > hardware and network resource dependent as to whether it is noticeable to 
> > you and
> > your players. There are many other factors as well, such as the video and 
> > network
> > hardware of your clients. I think you will find that it will be impossible 
> > to keep
>
>
>
>
>
> > everybody happy all of the time. Furthermore running an administration 
> > add-on such
> > as SourceMod (especially this one due to pore/no coding standards) on your 
> > server
> > will degrade your users experience even further.     All that being said 
> > you should
>
>
>
>
>
> > use trial and error to determine what works best for you and your users. 
> > You can
> > then select the best balance of options for your hosting goals.    If you 
> > are new
> > around here I would also suggest you add email filters for the following 
> > badmin/trolls
>
>
>
>
>
> > as they are known misinformation and spam providers: Doctor McKay 
> > (mc...@doctormckay.com)Dominik
> > Friedrichs (d...@forlix.org)Cameron Munroe (cmun...@cameronmunroe.com)List 
> > User (l...@redspeedservers.com)Lyrai
>
>
>
>
>
> > (lyr...@gmail.com)fiveofeight (hyn...@gmail.com)Mart-Jan Reeuwijk 
> > (mreeu...@yahoo.com)Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> > Simon (bluebriansi...@gmail.com)Eli Witt (eliw...@gmail.com)Paul 
> > (ubyu....@gmail.com)Bjorn
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wielens (uniac...@yahoo.ca)1nsane (1nsane...@gmail.com)T Marler 
> > (bloodyi...@shaw.ca)Niko
>
>
>
> > Storni (n...@elite-hunterz.info)Russell Smith 
> > (ve...@tinylittlerobots.us)Cc2iscooL
>
>
>
>
>
> > (cc2isc...@gmail.com)Asher Baker (asher...@gmail.com)IBIS Customer Service 
> > (ibis.serv...@gmail.com)ics
>
>
>
>
>
> > (i...@ics-base.net)ElitePowered (elitepowe...@gmail.com)The Supreme 
> > Commander (thesupremec...@gmail.com)Nomaan
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ahmad (n0man....@gmail.com)Derek Howard (derekdavidhow...@gmail.com)Wander 
> > (wander...@gmail.com)Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> > Vail (supp...@boomgaming.net)c.j...@griffinrun.net phre...@gmail.com 
> > bloodyi...@shaw.ca
>
>
>
>
>
> > wickedplayer...@gmail.com bsr.crazedgun...@gmail.com singh...@live.com 
> > kmahajani...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > barreltr...@gmail.com jet2the...@gmail.com i...@ics-base.net 
> > cmun...@cameronmunroe.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > wander...@gmail.com evan...@gmail.com I know this list is extensive, but I 
> > prefer
>
>
>
> > to be comprehensive as opposed to the misinformation provides. Good Luck.   
> >                 
>
>
>
>
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