@Steve, first off it only needs to be applied to the client. Putting the host file on the server won't do anything at this time.
If you think I am attacking him then you are sadly mistaken. I just can't argue with opinionated comments that have no factual evidence behind them. Now I am not saying all of Crapware's statements are like this, but the ones where I may have seemed like a jerk are things I simply can't argue with do to Critical thinking. Though, I do ask where I was off topic in my "attacks", which I just see as a friendly discourse. I could say the same for you. "...if you don't like the message don't reply..." You are entitled to your opinion, so if you don't like Pinion, then disable it. Or start a server without it functioning. However, some of us have found it easier and more effective to use pinion the begging there constituents for cash. As a server operator I am allowed to control my server the way I see fit. I am in no way putting Crapware down. I don't understand how you think simple discourse is putting someone down. "Sigh" @Crapware, I am in no way drawing him into battle. However, he has put out comments that wrongfully portray myself and and others on this list and it deserves a response explaining our side. We could simply ignore it, but that is just avoiding the points. mannor is spelled manner. :) On 04/01/2013 08:28 AM, Crapware Wardon wrote: > Hi Steve, > > It seems like "The List" is drawing you into a battle. Probably better to just let Valve do their thing and I'm confident that things will get sorted out in a timely mannor. Good Luck with your servers and I hope the pinion blocking works for you. > > Have a great day, > Crapware Wardon > > ------------------------- > From: steve.go...@live.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:20:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server > > from what I have gleaned from the message thread in the archive mr.wardon offered a good way to block pinion adds for clients and servers alike. it then appears that several deviants attacked him with off topic non sense, you included. from the type of provocative replys you have given me so far and the personal attacks he has been defending against I think its safe to assume that what he has been saying and his list of abusers is where the truth is. I also see others in the thread that agree with mr.wardon which the members of that list also attempt to put down. to what end these individuals have I can only guess and I doubt there is any real or truthful logic being applied to their negative comments. I would recommend something like if you don't like the message don't reply but apparently someone allows this sort of garbage to continue and as in everything a small group ruins things for the rest of us that play by the rules. > > ------------------------- > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:48:40 -0700 > From: cmun...@cameronmunroe.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server > > I know you asked not to respond, but I feel I need to. I haven't been diverting the conversation only kindly chatting with him. By all regards crapware.wardon is drowning out a few good folks as well with his email list. I'm on it and as such you have criticized me. Meaning you took his email list to heart which is sad since those few jents, excluding me, are the main source of help and information on this email list. They provide hard and factual data. Why do I care, who knows, but I saw a purpose in responding to them, so I did. > > I'm not sure if he is a good by any means considering after every email is a off topic and cruel remark. If you don't believe me go look through his emails between him and I. > > On 04/01/2013 07:49 AM, Steve Gonzolos wrote: > >> my bad I see now that it wasn't you. however you do seem to be diverting the list readers away from the original topic mr. wardon brought to lite which did seem to have something to do with hl servers. also the evidence you presented could have come from anywhere which makes it suspect. also curious is why you even care so much -rhetorical question. seems like some of you guys work in orchestra towards drowning out the messages a few good folks would present. no need to respond. >> >> ------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:23:30 -0700 >> From: cmun...@cameronmunroe.com >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server >> >> That's because it is the initial headers Steve, the one who I originally started the conversation that I have confirmed multiple times. Thus why you take a snapshot of a header when you have people like this. >> >> Valve sort it out, It has been two days and now the spoofers are having fun. The real way to fix this is give people the knowledge about how to see and detect spoofs. >> >> Worried what will happen? Ughh, I have been more then cordial with Crapware.Wardon. >> >> If you also look at his detailed list the 3 spoofer addresses, which none are mine, so what am I guilty on, Living, talking? >> >> On 04/01/2013 07:28 AM, Steve Gonzolos wrote: >> >>> Now you are just being pitiful. The date and time of the claimed original message does not match the one you posted on the image. This is of course assuming you didn't just mock up some more fake so called evidence. Anyone with common sense can see you are the guilty party. Just drop it and let valve sort it out, or are you worried that is exactly what will happen? >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:08:31 -0700 >>> From: cmun...@cameronmunroe.com >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server >>> >>> First thing, for all of you wondering which one is real or not here is his email identitify: >>> >>> Return-Path: <crapware.war...@hotmail.com> >>> Delivered-To: >>> Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=65.55.116.77; helo=blu0-omc3-s2.blu0.hotmail.com; envelope-from=crapware.war...@hotmail.com; receiver= >>> >>> Received: from blu0-omc3-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.77]) >>> by with ESMTP id 3CF9F272046F >>> for <>; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:58:12 +0400 (MSK) >>> Received: from BLU152-W34 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); >>> Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:57:59 -0700 >>> X-EIP: [lqOI6IVXcs7uA/wptlfWFDLVMEfRvIl+] >>> X-Originating-Email: [crapware.war...@hotmail.com] >>> Message-ID: <blu152-w342161d6ca70670e05ac3ae1...@phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>> boundary="_92223e3e-685c-44fc-a943-fb78709c36ae_" >>> From: Crapware Wardon <crapware.war...@hotmail.com> >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query regarding MOTD >>> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:57:59 -0500 >>> Importance: Normal >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2013 06:57:59.0355 (UTC) FILETIME=[1465A0B0:01CE2DDD] >>> >>> To check this against spoof email check the source of the email and you should see the above in the header. Look for the section that the list server received the email from as the initial one maybe spoofed to make it look like the above. >>> >>> It really isn't surprising that you have been spoofed, as such I probably have as well. So anything not coming from archimedes.munroenet.com isn't me. >>> >>> On 04/01/2013 12:49 AM, Crapware Wardon wrote: >>> >>>> No problem Viktor. Enjoy the reduced spam and misinformation. >>>> >>>> ------------------------- >>>> From: viktoran...@outlook.com >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:46:31 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server >>>> >>>> Thanks for the list of asshats and the heads up on the spammer. Maybe Valve will deal with that list and clean up the riff raff trolling around here. >>>> >>>> ------------------------- >>>> From: crapware.war...@hotmail.com >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:42:26 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server >>>> >>>> Obviously that was a spoofed email. >>>> >>>> Ahh the joys of mailing list trolls. So apparently Dr.McKay has been spoofing again. His ip address (137.118.16.55) has been tagged as known spam provider by spamhaus and his isp ( Neonova Network Services) has been notified of his illicit activities. Enjoy finding another isp. >>>> >>>> Furthermore he has been unsubscribing people from this mailing list. I would hope that's a ban-able offence. >>>> >>>> Someone that would do that makes one wonder about what other little activities they would be upto... hmm SourceMod stealing steam accounts maybe? Obviously something he has attempted by his statements about using the steam popup to alter steam group memberships. >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> From: crapware.war...@hotmail.com >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:13:19 +0200 >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server >>>> >>>> I would like to say that i am sorry for being such a dumbass and misinforming, aswell as troll and a guy that flames for fun. I should probably keep my crap off this mailing list. >>>> With love. >>>> -------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 3 >>>>> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:51:34 -0500 >>>>> From: Crapware Wardon <crapware.war...@hotmail.com> >>>>> To: "hlds@list.valvesoftware.com" <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server >>>>> Message-ID: <blu152-w429be295e1e4cf08bc992de1...@phx.gbl> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>>> >>>>> In response to... Harsh Baid (harshbai...@gmail.com) Hi Harsh, As you can see >>>>> from the previous response posts from the kids on this mailing list, they follow >>>>> the "If you cant dazzle them with footwork baffle them with bullshit" rule. >>>>> Of course you will see a performance hit with more players, however it will be >>>>> hardware and network resource dependent as to whether it is noticeable to you and >>>>> your players. There are many other factors as well, such as the video and network >>>>> hardware of your clients. I think you will find that it will be impossible to keep >>>>> everybody happy all of the time. Furthermore running an administration add-on such >>>>> as SourceMod (especially this one due to pore/no coding standards) on your server >>>>> will degrade your users experience even further. All that being said you should >>>>> use trial and error to determine what works best for you and your users. You can >>>>> then select the best balance of options for your hosting goals. If you are new >>>>> around here I would also suggest you add email filters for the following badmin/trolls >>>>> as they are known misinformation and spam providers: Doctor McKay (mc...@doctormckay.com)Dominik >>>>> Friedrichs (d...@forlix.org)Cameron Munroe (cmun...@cameronmunroe.com)List User (l...@redspeedservers.com)Lyrai >>>>> (lyr...@gmail.com)fiveofeight (hyn...@gmail.com)Mart-Jan Reeuwijk (mreeu...@yahoo.com)Brian >>>>> Simon (bluebriansi...@gmail.com)Eli Witt (eliw...@gmail.com)Paul (ubyu....@gmail.com)Bjorn >>>>> Wielens (uniac...@yahoo.ca)1nsane (1nsane...@gmail.com)T Marler (bloodyi...@shaw.ca)Niko >>>>> Storni (n...@elite-hunterz.info)Russell Smith (ve...@tinylittlerobots.us)Cc2iscooL >>>>> (cc2isc...@gmail.com)Asher Baker (asher...@gmail.com)IBIS Customer Service (ibis.serv...@gmail.com)ics >>>>> (i...@ics-base.net)ElitePowered (elitepowe...@gmail.com)The Supreme Commander (thesupremec...@gmail.com)Nomaan >>>>> Ahmad (n0man....@gmail.com)Derek Howard (derekdavidhow...@gmail.com)Wander (wander...@gmail.com)Mike >>>>> Vail (supp...@boomgaming.net)c.j...@griffinrun.net phre...@gmail.com bloodyi...@shaw.ca >>>>> wickedplayer...@gmail.com bsr.crazedgun...@gmail.com singh...@live.com kmahajani...@gmail.com >>>>> barreltr...@gmail.com jet2the...@gmail.com i...@ics-base.net cmun...@cameronmunroe.com >>>>> wander...@gmail.com evan...@gmail.com I know this list is extensive, but I prefer >>>>> to be comprehensive as opposed to the misinformation provides. 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