I don't think advertising in motds constitutes abuse

Liquid Source <liquid.sou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your opinion but how to deal with server op abuses? .... Just dump 
the motd altogether. 

A) Most of us are sick and 
tired of our gaming experience being hijacked by unscrupulous server ops.
B) 
This topic is a virus to these mailing lists.
C) The supporters of the MOTD 
Abuse and Game Hi-jacking are just trolling this list.
D) MOTD has nothing to 
do with the actual game.
E) Valve doesn't have the in house skill to 
actually resolve the MOTD abuse issue.
F) Any messages the server op wants 
people to see can be sent via in-game chat.
 
 
PEACE AND 
LOVE

 
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:05:41 -0600
> From: bloodyi...@shaw.ca
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> I'm actually rather fond of the motd feature
> 
> Steam Commander <steam.comman...@live.com> wrote:
> 
> Agreed, The problem is this thread got derailed by one user with  4 
> subscribed accounts. (n0man....@gmail.com, 
> mc...@doctormckay.com, evo...@gmail.com, jtrun...@outlook.com).
>  
> Additional information about why the MOTD should be abused by server owners 
> really doesn't justify it. Let's just agree that removing the MOTD feature 
> from servers would resolve all the issues and close this discussion.  Date: 
> Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:58:20 +0100
> From: andyg...@gmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> This is not what this mailing list is used for, please sort out your personal 
> issues elsewhere. 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Steam Commander <steam.comman...@live.com> 
> wrote:
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> 
> 
> when you say "I'm out" does that mean all of you or just this account?
>  
> From: n0man....@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:52:30 +0100
> 
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> *facepalm* I'm out.
> 
> On 17 June 2013 01:50, Steam Commander <steam.comman...@live.com> wrote:
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> 
> make that four accounts with the same origin ip [50.115.172.19], also 
> registered to doctormckay.com...
>  
> n0man....@gmail.com
> mc...@doctormckay.com
> 
> 
> 
> evo...@gmail.com
> jtrun...@outlook.com
>  
> email origin is not the same as the mailing list, thanks for expressing your 
> concern so as to make me look closer at your trail too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> From: n0man....@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:43:49 +0100
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> Valve's mailing list IP?
> 
> On 17 June 2013 01:41, Steam Commander <steam.comman...@live.com> wrote:
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> 
> speaking of single user multiple accounts. it looks like 
> mc...@doctormckay.com, evo...@gmail.com, and jtrun...@outlook.com are coming 
> from the same origin ip address. funny how that works out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>  
> From: lepracy77...@live.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:28:22 -0400
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> 
> Subject: [hlds] (no subject)
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> 
> make that five accounts
> From: jtrun...@outlook.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> 
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> Date: Sun, 16  Jun 2013 20:21:06 -0400
> Subject: [hlds] (no subject) Make that four accounts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: serverg...@hotmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Sun, 16 
> Jun 2013 20:19:06 -0400
> Subject: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Way to attack people contributing to the list!! 
> 
>  
> What makes you think they are the same person? because 
> they disagree with your wrong opinion?
>  
> Which one of those people said anything about "quickplay" at all? do you 
> actually read what people write or do you just make things up in your head 
> and 
> respond in kind?
>  
> A few loud mouths do not reflect the opinions of all.
>  
>  
> ----- 
> Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: 
> Evourr [evo...@gmail.com]
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and 
> Quickplay 
>  
>  
> 
> The problem is this thread got derailed by one user with 
> 3 subscribed accounts. (Liquid Source, Steam Commander, and Valve 
> Monkey.)
>  
> Additional information added to the return of the 
> "status" command would suit your needs.
>  
> The problem with your original statement is that you 
> wanted Valve to implement a restriction on the quickplay clients so the motd 
> was 
> completely disabled, but you only wanted it so you could detect quickplay 
> clients. (That's just bad 
> practice.)
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