I'm not stating that 'my community' is not donating, I'm merely stating
what I know is and always has been a general fact for most communities.
Thanks however for your comment.


On 17 June 2013 16:13, Liquid Source <liquid.sou...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Truly, if you're not getting donations you are in denial of the fact that
> the community thinks your server sucks. Try changing things to the requests
> of the community and not dictate the same things that have created the lack
> of interest in donations.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: ubyu....@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:55:58 +0100
>
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay
>
> Then again a good number of players don't even support the best
> communities out there by donating, most players these days are under the
> impression that running a server has no price tags attached. It's a case of
> either the community's owner footing the cost, or closing their own
> community's servers. The latter of course generally ends up with less
> servers than there are today. Less servers eventually means little to no
> game. Why else haven't more official servers been opened up? Because it's
> not cheap (or free) and is most likely going to cause Valve to be running
> at a loss in order to do so. So that leaves the final option, Pinion and
> the like, an alternative solution to those who don't donate to a good
> community in order to keep it alive for all to participate on.
>
> Hate Pinion and the like? Disable HTML MOTD's in your settings in-game and
> leave and blacklist servers which use it. Finally look for and go on
> official Valve servers. SPUF is generally a better place to have this sort
> of discussion on really, imo.
>
>
> On 17 June 2013 10:05, Saint K. <sai...@specialattack.net> wrote:
>
> A good community and it's servers are supported by it's donors, not by
> highly intrusive advertisements.
>
> Saint K.
> ________________________________________
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [
> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] on behalf of Supreet Sahni [
> coachcrock...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 17 June 2013 01:13
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay
>
> Doctor, why don't you pay the $300-400 dedicated server bills and other
> expenses that server owners have to pay to keep their community running.
>
> It's as simple as this, a server forces you to see ads, leave it and don't
> come back. Why are you trying to be a Nazi government trying to control
> what server owners want to do.
>
> Look Valve, we pay for these servers okay. Dedicated servers aren't cheap,
> we need to make money to recovery costs. What you are basically doing is
> stunting one community's growth.
>
> If you continue to create features that will just add more and more
> restrictions for server owners, why don't you just become like one of the
> game publishers that don't even let users host dedicated servers.
>
> Just take away our server powers and how about this Valve? Why don't you
> just host all the servers for us and leave us the headache? How much extra
> server dollars will that cost you Valve, and also how much manpower will
> you need to maintain those 1000s of servers running plugins that people
> LOVE!
>
> It's easy for you to just toss up Vanilla servers in there with no
> configurations and setups but do realize the amount of hours and hardwork
> server owners put in their community. We build it from ground up. How would
> you like it Valve is "Example Gaming Regulation" told you, you can't push
> certain updates and release a set group of weapons and items.
>
> The point is this - we pay full cost for our communities, so let us do
> THINGS to cover for the cost. Otherwise, make srcds use less RAM and CPU so
> we don't have to buy expensive servers.
>
> I speak on behalf of many community owners who are irritated by people
> stirring up something every few weeks for no reason. Yeah I'm talking about
> you Doctor.
>
> Your TF2 would be NOTHING if it wasn't for us hard working community
> owners who provide great servers for your playerbase to play at.
>
>
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