Seriously, this. If your servers can't retain people, then that's a problem
with the strength of your community, not with the updates to quickplay.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Rovanion Luckey <rovanion.luc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is there an email list on which I can get the update announcements and
> without the constant whining?
>
> 2015-08-04 12:54 GMT+02:00 Rowedahelicon <theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com>
> :
>
>> Can I get a confirmation my emails go in?
>>
>> Anyway, wait until Dota II stops being popular, that's where the money is
>> and that's where the focus is! Thing is is that the TF2 community as a
>> whole doesn't seem to understand why TF2 is as bad as it is, far too many
>> people think that everyone Valve does is for the best and that they're
>> never wrong ever. The response may be more effective if a much larger
>> portion of the community raise their voice about it.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:32 AM, Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Since Valve appears to have more or less confirmed their lack of support
>>> towards communities these days I haven't bothered spending a single
>>> penny/cent on games such as Team Fortress 2, especially not on these
>>> contracts. I also asked a good number of my friends to see what their
>>> opinion was and quite a number of them aren't either apparently. It's so
>>> disappointing to see that a company who originally developed great games
>>> has gone from being open and fair to being closed and apparently mostly
>>> interested in ways to pull more cash from their games. There are so many
>>> good ideas here which are being ignored, as workarounds. If things ever
>>> changed for the better then I, along with quite a number of other people
>>> I'm sure, would be motivated in buying items on games such as Team Fortress
>>> 2 again. Come on Valve, open your mind to us - the community which made
>>> Team Fortress 2 towards what it is today (prior to it beginning to lose
>>> support for the community servers)! Somewhere you must surely care about
>>> them still?
>>>
>>> On 4 August 2015 at 04:40, Rowedahelicon <
>>> theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh they know the setup is unfair, they said so from the very start a
>>>> few years ago, and last year they promised they'd give us a middle ground.
>>>> They don't care you see, Valve employees have said how money drives
>>>> direction at Valve now, and Valve servers mean less modding means more
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The TF2 team, in a misguided effort to silence all complaints, ended
>>>>> up making poor decisions that are killing community servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth is, whatever you do, someone is going to complain about
>>>>> something. You blocked ads from being displayed for people connecting
>>>>> through quickplay? One down. But now there are people complaining about
>>>>> contracts and saying they don't want CS:GO garbage in their game. Are you
>>>>> going to remove that too? Of course not.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far you have been unfairly accommodating to the type of players
>>>>> that can't even be bothered to type "valve" in the server browser at the
>>>>> expense of everyone else. What happened to letting people decide for
>>>>> themselves? If people do not like a server for having reserved slots or
>>>>> ads, then they will not return, and the server will have fewer players.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that you hid official servers from the browser, at least for
>>>>> a couple days, proves that you know the current setup to be unfair and not
>>>>> the best experience for the players who don't like official servers. 
>>>>> Please
>>>>> don't wait another year to fix this.
>>>>>
>>>>> If people are actually use the browser to find official servers, then
>>>>> I would suggest having a toggle for that on the browser, defaulted to off.
>>>>> However to see any real change, the official server toggle on the 
>>>>> quickplay
>>>>> GUI should automatically be turned off after a few hours. That would still
>>>>> guarantee that new players know what a vanilla experience is.
>>>>>
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