I used it to log ONE client in so I could seed with it and hear what was going 
on in the server. Additionally it was nice to see on my screen at home what was 
going on thru the console too vs remote desktop into the server. I can’t speak 
for everyone else but even still a REAL CLIENT is a real client…not Fake player 
counts. Regardless of how many you log in if they are REAL clients which they 
were then I don’t see the issue with that at all. That is much different then 
coding in fake clients showing up or fake numbers for server population.

 

Either way this is just stupid and pointless to argue since we won’t hear a 
damn word from Valve on this or anything else when it comes to Servers with 
this game. I’m kinda sick of it and damn near ready to say the hell with it all 
and their games.

 

From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released

 

Just so we're clear, you guys were only using this to fake player counts on 
your servers? Where's the negative impact here? This sounds like a much needed 
change to prevent scumbaggery.

Kyle.

On 13 Oct 2015 6:14 a.m., "N-Gon" <ngongamedes...@gmail.com> wrote:

Back when I ran servers I used to use Sandboxie and a bunch of accounts in 
textmode to help populate my servers.

It's a struggle when you don't have a well known community, I feel bad for the 
folks who've just been hurt by this change.

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:45 AM, HD <ad...@gamerscrib.net> wrote:

Yea I saw it last night... this is beyond a wasteful change. I use it for a
client so I can listen in a server without using a bunch of resources.
Why was this change made and what alternative do you have besides launching
the game in full and alt tabbing now.


-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rudy Bleeker
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:02 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released

>From the client patch notes from October 12, 2015:

- Running in textmode now places the client in insecure mode

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:50 AM, HD <ad...@gamerscrib.net> wrote:
> Anyone else having issues now using a client into their servers using
> -textmode for launch options? I log in an account this way every so
> often to "listen" in the server while reading chat but for some reason
> now I get the "You are in insecure mode. You must restart before you
> can connect to secure servers.".
>
> I've not changed nothing - not a single thing and it just started
> after last nights update came out. I've reinstalled TF2 on that
> computer but nothing has changed.
> I'm convinced something got messed up from this update as I tried it
> on another computer and it did the exact same thing.
>
> Anyone able to explain this?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 5:52 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
>
> We've released an optional update for TF2 that updates the Invasion
> Community Update Coin to also count assists. This is an optional
> dedicated server update and is not required unless you are running any
> of the Invasion maps and would like to support this new feature.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
>
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