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Whether or not you believe my demeanor involves too much "whining" doesn't
negate the fact that the installer itself cannot make up it's mind as to
where it should install the server.  As for whining too much, you really
need a reality check. If you can point out how I "whine too much" to the
mailing list, please, do so. Unlike your extremely helpful response, I
actually interject in the mailing list when I have time to help out,
something I've yet to see come out of you aside from this beauty of a post.
I actually pointed out the problems thus far, and considering the flood of
messages on the mailing list since release with people having issues, I know
I'm not the only one.

And no, actually, they are not giving me the ability to host anything at
this point, as you can see by my initial email, try as I might to get the
actual program installed. Try taking notes while reading. They've admitted
the installer was having issues with connection resets and they would "look
at it tomorrow" the day it was released, which still hasn't happened, at
least not that I'm aware of. Even when steam does install to the correct
folders, it still resets between content installations.

Chances are you've just started hosting and really have no idea what you're
talking about, so I'll let your ignorant comments slide. The fact that they
had a release date set for this before they even had a working Linux server
platform, while bad, is only worsened by the fact that they couldn't reach
the deadline. I could even let that slide, if I was at least able to get a
working set of tf2 server files. Shit, I'll take a tarball of the entire
installation of someone mirrors it. I assume VALVe does all of their testing
on Windows only, then converts to Linux as needed?

Either way, I know I'm not the only person who's had enough broken Linux
updates to last a lifetime. Yours work for you? Great! I can't wait until
mine does. But unless you have something helpful to solve the problem or
want to elaborate more in a helpful manner, keep your mouth shut.


On 9/23/07, Ryan Schremp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> That's funny. My install went fine, and I'm up and running perfectly. My
> retort isn't that it's a beta, it's that you whine too much.
> Don't ask for help and bitch at the company that's giving you the ability
> to
> run your server for what's already a very popular game.
> Whine, whine, bitch moan. That'll get you tons of help, I'm sure.
>
> On 9/23/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Okay, I'm getting more and more fed up with not only the fouled up
> > installs
> > (files missing, some installing incorrectly), but the constant
> connection
> > resets while attempting to install TF2. I've been as diplomatic as
> > possible,
> > but now, the steam update tool is installing TF2 into a different
> install
> > path on and off?????
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/setup $ ./update
> > Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > Updating Installation
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 5
> >
> > 0.00%   .\tf\bin\server.dll
> >
> > Okay, as you can see, that's the beginning of the install. Notice all of
> > the
> > no record found at .'s? This is a blank folder installing a new install
> of
> > tf2, running the command "./steam -command update -game "tf" -dir ."
> which
> > should install our game. However, sometimes I get what you see above,
> > other
> > times I get half "No record at ." and half "No record found at
> orangebox".
> > Example:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/setup$ ./update
> > Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > Updating Installation
> > No installation record found at ./orangebox
> > No installation record found at ./orangebox
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at .
> > No installation record found at ./orangebox
> > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 5
> >
> > 0.00%   ./orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
> >
> > You cannot be serious in that I am getting different paths to install
> the
> > files when trying to install tf2 multiple times. If it's not one thing,
> > it's
> > another.
> >
> > Yes I know it's a beta, so if you're going to retort that this is a
> beta,
> > don't. This is a public beta, and if it wasn't ready for prime-time beta
> > testing, it shouldn't have been released. I've just had it up to here
> with
> > Linux being the bastard child of the dedicated servers with VALVe, and
> the
> > fact that I purchased a server specifically to host this game, and I
> > *can't
> > even install the damn files to do so*, I've about reached my limit. I've
> > hosted Source for coming up on three years, and I've dealt with some
> wacky
> > stuff over the years (like updates completely breaking Linux, no plugins
> > involved), but this takes the cake.
> >
> > Can you throw the Linux admins a bone, VALVe? Honestly.
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