try gentoo, everything in testing branch (~) is pretty stable.

Kveri

J T  wrote / napĂ­sal(a):
> I've had debian installed for some time and its a great distro. However it
> takes longer for versions of specific software to make its way into the
> stable branch. And sometimes testing can become pretty unstable.
>
> I'm starting to like ubuntu more.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Kveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Nothing but true :).
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 10 Nov 2008, at 11:04, Crazy Canucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Can't help you with your specific problem, and this is a bit ot, but
>>> stick with Linux, you'll be happy you did.  I switched from Windows to
>>> Linux, and yes, it was a steep learning curve, but once I started
>>> figuring things out, I was extremely happy I did.
>>>
>>> Just an example of the benefits:
>>>
>>> I host game servers for my clan on the weekend, and I host our website
>>> on the the same box as the game servers.  When I start up the game
>>> server, I take down the full website, and put up a minimal one in it's
>>> place.  Anyway, on Windows, I used to have a check list, with about 20
>>> steps on it for starting up and shutting down the game servers.
>>>
>>> I now have scripts that have replaced those twenty steps with one.  I
>>> have a script that I run to start the servers, and I enter the name of
>>> the game I want to play, the script handles everything else, and a
>>> cron
>>> script shuts down the game server and puts back up the full website in
>>> the morning after the game nights.
>>>
>>> My servers are bandwidth challenged.  When I switched to Linux I was
>>> able to essentially double the update rate for my servers.  I can only
>>> guess that Windows attaches some kind of bulky header to the packets
>>> which Linux doesn't.  Switching to Linux was the smartest thing I've
>>> ever done for my clan servers.
>>>
>>> Drek
>>>
>>> Arthur wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Any hints as to which packages? New to Linux its proving a steep
>>>> learning
>>>> curve - windows is so much easier :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jordy van
>>>> Wolferen
>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 7:22 PM
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
>>>> filesavailable
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is only for an AMD64 box.
>>>> Maybe you can update the necessary packages for 32 bit, without
>>>> upgrading to lenny.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:33 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Its a 32bit intel box,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Jordy van
>>>>> Wolferen
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
>>>>> filesavailable
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you keep the ia32-libs installed? You still need them
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:40 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Never mind :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Relised i forgot to extract the .deb file, however still doesnt
>>>>>> work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> running
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb
>>     
>>>>>> Just segmentation faults on start up,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 4:20 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
>>>>>> filesavailable
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Few questions for you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) how do you remove the LD_PRELOAD paramater?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b) output of my console now
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could not locate steam binary:./steam, ignoring.
>>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb'
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
>>>>>> Failed to open bin/dedicated_i486.so (/lib/tls/libc.so.6: version
>>>>>> `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by bin/dedicated_i486.so))
>>>>>> Add "-debug" to the ./srcds_run command line to generate a
>>>>>> debug.log to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> help
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> with solving this problem
>>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb'
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
>>>>>> Mon Nov 10 16:18:51 EST 2008: Server restart in 10 seconds
>>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb'
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dual Core2 Quad Box running debian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Jordy van
>>>>>> Wolferen
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 12:14 PM
>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
>>>>>> filesavailable
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fixed it on my Debian Etch AMD64 server.
>>>>>> I used this package:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc6-i386
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wget
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.7-15_amd64.de
>>     
>>>>>> b
>>>>>> ar x libc6-i386_2.7-15_amd64.deb
>>>>>> tar xvzf data.tar.gz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then LD_PRELOAD the lib like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> export LD_PRELOAD=/home/l4d/tmp/lib32/libc-2.7.so (ofcourse your
>>>>>> path
>>>>>> to that file)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Run that before you start your server.
>>>>>> It seems to run fine :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Jordy van Wolferen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>             
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> If you do find a way to make a deb, let us know, so we can use
>>>>>>> it too :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:37 -0800, J T wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Debian Etch is the latest stable. The main reason why it has
>>>>>>>> libc6 2.3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> because 2.3 still supports kernel 2.4, in the next release of
>>>>>>>> lenny it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> ship with libc6 2.7 which should correct the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have the choice of installing a new OS, choose ubuntu,
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> they
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> seem to have newer version of most packages. Debian is sometimes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> doesn't
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> include newer packages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm looking at possibly trying to get glibc into a .dpkg so I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> run debootstrap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:22 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> No and yes... it's the most recent stable release of debian.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CNU
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 07 November 2008 19:20
>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated
>>>>>>>>>> Server
>>>>>>>>>> filesavailable
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are everyone running Debian Etch here or something? Isn't it
>>>>>>>>>> like...ancient?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> CNU
>>>>>>>>>>
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