try gentoo, everything in testing branch (~) is pretty stable. Kveri
J T wrote / napĂsal(a): > I've had debian installed for some time and its a great distro. However it > takes longer for versions of specific software to make its way into the > stable branch. And sometimes testing can become pretty unstable. > > I'm starting to like ubuntu more. > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Kveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Nothing but true :). >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 10 Nov 2008, at 11:04, Crazy Canucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Can't help you with your specific problem, and this is a bit ot, but >>> stick with Linux, you'll be happy you did. I switched from Windows to >>> Linux, and yes, it was a steep learning curve, but once I started >>> figuring things out, I was extremely happy I did. >>> >>> Just an example of the benefits: >>> >>> I host game servers for my clan on the weekend, and I host our website >>> on the the same box as the game servers. When I start up the game >>> server, I take down the full website, and put up a minimal one in it's >>> place. Anyway, on Windows, I used to have a check list, with about 20 >>> steps on it for starting up and shutting down the game servers. >>> >>> I now have scripts that have replaced those twenty steps with one. I >>> have a script that I run to start the servers, and I enter the name of >>> the game I want to play, the script handles everything else, and a >>> cron >>> script shuts down the game server and puts back up the full website in >>> the morning after the game nights. >>> >>> My servers are bandwidth challenged. When I switched to Linux I was >>> able to essentially double the update rate for my servers. I can only >>> guess that Windows attaches some kind of bulky header to the packets >>> which Linux doesn't. Switching to Linux was the smartest thing I've >>> ever done for my clan servers. >>> >>> Drek >>> >>> Arthur wrote: >>> >>>> Any hints as to which packages? New to Linux its proving a steep >>>> learning >>>> curve - windows is so much easier :( >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>> Jordy van >>>> Wolferen >>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 7:22 PM >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server >>>> filesavailable >>>> >>>> >>>> This is only for an AMD64 box. >>>> Maybe you can update the necessary packages for 32 bit, without >>>> upgrading to lenny. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:33 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Its a 32bit intel box, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>> Jordy van >>>>> Wolferen >>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 5:17 PM >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server >>>>> filesavailable >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Did you keep the ia32-libs installed? You still need them >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:40 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Never mind :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Relised i forgot to extract the .deb file, however still doesnt >>>>>> work >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> running >>>>> >>>>> >> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb >> >>>>>> Just segmentation faults on start up, >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 4:20 PM >>>>>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server >>>>>> filesavailable >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Few questions for you, >>>>>> >>>>>> a) how do you remove the LD_PRELOAD paramater? >>>>>> >>>>>> b) output of my console now >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Could not locate steam binary:./steam, ignoring. >>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb' >>>>>> from >>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. >>>>>> Failed to open bin/dedicated_i486.so (/lib/tls/libc.so.6: version >>>>>> `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by bin/dedicated_i486.so)) >>>>>> Add "-debug" to the ./srcds_run command line to generate a >>>>>> debug.log to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> help >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> with solving this problem >>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb' >>>>>> from >>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. >>>>>> Mon Nov 10 16:18:51 EST 2008: Server restart in 10 seconds >>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb' >>>>>> from >>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dual Core2 Quad Box running debian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Jordy van >>>>>> Wolferen >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 12:14 PM >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server >>>>>> filesavailable >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I fixed it on my Debian Etch AMD64 server. >>>>>> I used this package: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc6-i386 >>>>>> >>>>>> wget >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.7-15_amd64.de >> >>>>>> b >>>>>> ar x libc6-i386_2.7-15_amd64.deb >>>>>> tar xvzf data.tar.gz >>>>>> >>>>>> Then LD_PRELOAD the lib like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> export LD_PRELOAD=/home/l4d/tmp/lib32/libc-2.7.so (ofcourse your >>>>>> path >>>>>> to that file) >>>>>> >>>>>> Run that before you start your server. >>>>>> It seems to run fine :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Jordy van Wolferen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> If you do find a way to make a deb, let us know, so we can use >>>>>>> it too :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:37 -0800, J T wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Debian Etch is the latest stable. The main reason why it has >>>>>>>> libc6 2.3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> because 2.3 still supports kernel 2.4, in the next release of >>>>>>>> lenny it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> will >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> ship with libc6 2.7 which should correct the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have the choice of installing a new OS, choose ubuntu, >>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> they >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> seem to have newer version of most packages. Debian is sometimes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> doesn't >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> include newer packages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm looking at possibly trying to get glibc into a .dpkg so I >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> have >>>> >>>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> run debootstrap. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:22 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No and yes... it's the most recent stable release of debian. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds_linux- >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CNU >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 07 November 2008 19:20 >>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated >>>>>>>>>> Server >>>>>>>>>> filesavailable >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are everyone running Debian Etch here or something? Isn't it >>>>>>>>>> like...ancient? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> CNU >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> archives, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> please visit: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>> >>>>> >>>> please visit: >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux