You’re wrong and Valve is doing its job wrong. But I don’t want to flame off 
topic about how companies should do their job dealing with cracked industry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl" <aidsf...@gmail.com>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting


> This new scoring system would help get rid of servers like yours.
>
> Evaldas Z(ilinskas wrote:
>> Question
>>
>> If I have a slot plugin, and players get kicked, when they connect, due
>> reserved slots "msg"?
>> Will I get the -15point pennalt? Yes I will :) andevery minute I get at
>> least 10 tries to connect. :)
>> -150points every minute...
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David A. Parker" <dpar...@utica.edu>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
>> <hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting
>>
>>
>>
>>> I read that blog post last night, and I agree with the OP that Valve is
>>> going about this the wrong way.  It seems to me that entirely delisting
>>> servers with poor scores is a bad idea.  What they should do is put a
>>> "server score" field into the serverbrowser, so players can sort by
>>> score.  Hacked servers, etc., would still be listed, bu they would be at
>>> the bottom.  Also, as mentioned before, there is sure to be some kind of
>>> exploit to rapidly connect and disconnect from a server a few hundred
>>> times, effectively delisting it.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02 (USD).
>>>
>>>     - Dave
>>>
>>> Donnie Newlove wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Brian Rak <d...@devicenull.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm a bit worried about this new server delisting system.. I see a few
>>>>> issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> A) Every major GSP (a large portion of the servers) reuses IP 
>>>>> addresses
>>>>> between different clients.  It's entirely possible (and very likely)
>>>>> that someone is going to get their server delisted, then request that
>>>>> their IP be changed, leaving the next client to deal with that.  Are
>>>>> these delistings permanent?
>>>>>
>>>> Then every major GSP will have to forbid hacking servers to inflate
>>>> the player count if they want to protect their addresses. Which is of
>>>> course great.
>>>>
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>>>
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