Hmm, its called on our community also Premium, but not gamechanging stuff is offered for them. Only things like slots, immunity vs class restrictions etc, on trade mapserver its some other fun stuff, like access to some area's etc, but those maps have only as goal to trade for ppl, not to kill or push/cap a point or w/e.
The "premium" services in itself isn't the problem, its in the offered services to those paying players for that access. If thats game changing, then advantages may get abusive imo. >________________________________ >From: Benedict Glover <neobened...@hotmail.co.uk> >To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com >Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011, 22:31 >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool > > >I'm not personally going to report these but what about servers that offer >over powered weapons if you pay real money? (Premium Servers (Nightteam)) >Ben > >> From: fletch...@valvesoftware.com >> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:28:50 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool >> >> I don't think we would find that abusive. >> >> I also note that I cannot imagine that a normal player would have any reason >> to report abuse against that, either. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:27 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool >> >> So if I use a plugin that renames bots but does not otherwise disguise them >> as real players (no ping, no steam ids in status) I should be fine? >> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn >> <fletch...@valvesoftware.com>wrote: >> >> > We are going to add a combo box to the abuse reporting tool and enumerate >> > some categories of abuse. We hope that will help both players and agme >> > servers get an idea of what we consider abusive. However, those are just >> > examples. There will always be an "other" category, and there's a reason >> > we >> > require the description field. The system is purposefully fuzzy. >> > >> > The purpose of the in-game abuse reporter is to identify game servers where >> > players are not having fun, due to a game server atmosphere. This >> > negatively affects our game as a whole. We're not going to draw a bright >> > line and define precisely what is OK and what is not. If your users are >> > reporting a high degree of abuse, we're going to read the descriptions of >> > what they are saying and decide if we think it's reasonable or not. >> > >> > As I said in the other post, if your players are having fun, I think you >> > have nothing to worry about. The purpose of this tool is locate the worst >> > offenses. We will not be straying into the gray area or punishing >> > well-intentioned game server operators who experimenting with rule changes, >> > or who get abuse reports just because some people don't like nocrits or >> > medieval mode. >> > >> > I think everybody here can understand that there is quite a difference >> > between purposefully concealing major rule changes (i.e. hacking the tags >> > that are designed to advertise those rule changes, purposefully making bots >> > look as if they are real players, etc), and customizing your server to >> > provide the experience your players want. Or locking players in place >> > while >> > certain players rush around to collect the gift drops, if those players >> > didn't opt in to that experience. >> > >> > We just want to locate game servers that are clearly abusing players. We >> > don't need to draw a bright line because we don't plan to go near it, >> > wherever it may be. >> > >> > - Fletch >> > >> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: >> > hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of E. Olsen >> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:34 AM >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool >> > >> > That's a valid question - an abuse reporting system has been put in place, >> > without telling the users what consittutes abuse (which I think would lead >> > to many more false reports than not). Some guidelines (both for users and >> > server operators) might be beneficial, both to keep down the number of >> > nuisance reports, AND help the server operators to stay in compliance. It's >> > all well and good to say that Valve reserves the right to ban servers/IP's >> > for abuse, but without knowing what the rules/guidelines are, it's giving >> > operators an invisible line and telling us "don't cross this". >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, >> > <doctor...@web.de<mailto:doctor...@web.de>> >> > wrote: >> > What is considered as abusive behaviour? >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> > SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE<http://WEB.DE> FreeMail - einfach, schnell und >> > kostenguenstig. 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