saigns.de, just saying. 2011/11/2 [BT]Black V <bla...@paradise.net.nz>: > .... As for the IP's etc, if you don't know who those are, your not around > much.... > Or maybe, just maybe, those servers are not local to us so we don’t SEE > those servers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mart-Jan Reeuwijk [mailto:mreeu...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 09:18 a.m. > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fake clients, misreported bots, infringing usage > of player names/images > > What I totally dislike by such is that they are using the names, steam ID's, > avatars etc of real players on their bots. This can cause a lot of problems > when those are "known" around and they even added fake-chatting etc to their > botts. All that to deceive their new players into thinking they are real > players. > > As for the IP's etc, if you don't know who those are, your not around much. > Fact is, they have paying customers, and that still pays their bills for as > long as they have been around, and they have a long list of servers. Its > just the deceiving that's so disliked on them for players that just want > "fair" play, instead of a engineer building 5 sentries, having way more > metal, and things are upgraded faster, a standing still sniper is barely > visible, etc. I left the server after I saw that years ago, and will never > go on them again. Some ppl enjoy that, others hate it. > > Well, answer this, once in a server, how to make the players know that they > are playing with bots, even if valve didn't make them. As the hud is > collecting such info on the players with the player overview (TAB), maybe > alter the way that works so that checks if its real players or not via > valve. That would end any need for trying tho phish steam user names, > steamID's, avatars, and preferred classes etc. once they are on the server. > As for in the server list... lets first make pulling the server info panel > work right at start, shall we? cos its annoying to open info on a server, > and then see "could not connect" or w/e it is that it cant get the info. > > > >>________________________________ >>From: DontWannaName! <ad...@topnotchclan.com> >>To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >><hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >><hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 20:40 >>Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fake clients, misreported bots, infringing >>usage of player names/images >> >>What are the servers IPs? Valve can't do much without more info. >> >>Sent from my iPhone 4 >> >>On Nov 1, 2011, at 12:31 PM, coffee problem <spoofedpac...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >>> These are multiple issues. Please don't try to wrap it into one. The >>> problem in particular with the ranking system, if you trick a few >>> newbies into thinking they are playing with 23 other people for five >>> minutes, there's no negative impact on their server's score. Valve >>> knows who is running these plugins and isn't doing anything about it. >>> They are just playing ignorant on the matter, at least, until >>> something happens that forces them to address it. >>> >>> Please grow up and stop calling it "crying" for wanting Valve to take >>> action for a clean community. I'm just expressing concerns. This isn't > Halo. >>> >>> CP >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:13 PM, msleeper > <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Fake clients is one thing, and Valve has taken a stance against it >>>> with the server score/delisting. The problem here is that this >>>> method is not valid with these communities in particular; they're >>>> too "well known" to be negatively affected by the scoring/delisting > mechanism. >>>> Valve needs to take manual action, and they seem ambivalent at best >>>> regarding the issue. Doesn't matter what server ops are doing as >>>> long as your customers have somewhere to play, right boys? >>>> >>>> But as for "begging for money" or "selling super powers": cry more. >>>> It's not deceiving players, and if players don't like it then >>>> they'll leave the server. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Emil Larsson <ail...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Indeed, I hate those fakeplayers servers as anyone else, but I >>>>> think it's better to educate the average user why and how to report > those servers. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:55 PM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let the system run couple more weeks. Players will use the report >>>>>> tool >>>> if >>>>>> they are aware of it. As a server admin, be very carefull about >>>> reporting >>>>>> other servers. It might kick you in the face, unless you >>>>>> personally >>>> play on >>>>>> those other servers and see that they are bad. >>>>>> >>>>>> -ics >>>>>> >>>>>> 1.11.2011 20:48, coffee problem kirjoitti: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Saul, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have logged in to report as many as I've had the energy to do >>>>>>> since >>>> the >>>>>>> reporting feature was implemented. They are still up and running, >>>>>>> also >>>> of >>>>>>> note: they are still on the 'play now' list even though there are >>>> multiple >>>>>>> reasons they shouldn't be. The ones I speak of have been >>>>>>> de-listed >>>> from >>>>>>> ranking sites for well over a year, so it is detectable and >>>>>>> well-known >>>> who >>>>>>> these admins are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Valve is just sitting on their hands with this garbage. They've >>>>>>> had a number of reports brought against servers regarding the >>>>>>> Halloween >>>> event, >>>>>>> and none of these have had any action taken. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> CP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Saul Rennison<saul.rennison@gmail. >>>> **com<saul.renni...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is why they implemented server blacklisting. Report the >>>>>>> server, >>>> it >>>>>>>> will be delisted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>> *Saul Rennison* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1 November 2011 18:39, coffee >>>>>>>> problem<spoofedpacket@gmail.**com< >>>> spoofedpac...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, this has been brought to light several times in the past and >>>> Valve >>>>>>>>> ignores anyone's request for even a stance on the matter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You've got about five large "communities" built up on false >>>>>>>>> stats, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> begging >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for money and trying to deceive new players with server plugins. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When is Valve going to take a stance or do something about this? >>>> What's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> going to take to get someone in the company to grow a pair and >>>>>>>>> say something? Is it all about the short-term of hats and keys >>>>>>>>> while letting the community erode? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CP >>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >
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