Let's assume that there's no quickplay rule regarding respawn times, or even better, let's assume that there's no quickplay at all. What would you do? :) You would still use the default respawn times or you would mod the server(s) to have faster / instant respawn?
My opinion is that many are using now the default respawn times only because Valve said so, not because they think that players want this. You should blame Valve for adding stupid rules, not the "malicious" server operators. -----Original Message----- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:42 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Policy of Truth: Respawn Times I can understand players frustration regarding respawn times, since they want to play, not wait for to play. Arena doesn't get much love due to this. But the regular player doesn't understand that maps do not work as they should witn such respawn that they expect. Also I just think it's unfair for other people who run servers to have these servers that have instant or faster spawn in quiickplay cycle along with the rest of us. -ics Gordon Reynolds kirjoitti: > I can see respawntimes are a hard one to easily verify, you have to join > the server yourself, and most new users have no concept of what a "normal > respawn" time is. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen people type > something along the lines of, "wtf is with this respawn, 20 seconds? I'm > out" and then just leave. > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: > >> Last time i checked, nearly a month ago, there were several communities >> having multiple servers that modified respawn times. Either very fast or >> instant. They all were in quickplay participants. I checked and reported >> each one of them. I'm not sure if they are along anymore or has someone >> actually gone through reports and removed the servers from quickplay >> through penalty ban. >> >> -ics >> >> Michael Johansen kirjoitti: >> >> I don't know whether the plugins are fixed, but I know of many people >>> that are not subscribed to this list, and are running an old version of >>> some plugin released on AM a couple of months ago which does not add the >>> tags required. I know the plugin authors have added this feature now, but >>> who knows, people might not be watching the forums for new plugins as most >>> of them are "set and forget". >>> >>> From: abdulk...@live.co.uk >>>> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**com<hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:47:34 +0100 >>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Policy of Truth: Respawn Times >>>> >>>> This has been brought up several times but it is only getting worse, >>>> this needs to be addressed. >>>> >>>> There are many quickplay-enabled servers out there that change the >>>> respawn times without having the 'respawntimes' sv_tag. I have used the >>>> server-report feature to bring this to Valve's attention only for nothing >>>> to happen after weeks. The amount of servers now doing this has only >>>> increased to the point that when a quickplay-user joins a populated 32/32 >>>> server, they would complain and leave due to long respawn times (not >>>> realizing that other servers have fast-respawn enabled on quickplay). >>>> >>>> Are we to see any enforcement, or should we join the crowd doing this >>>> considering it is becoming necessary to compete and maintain the community. >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https ://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https ://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https ://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >> > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux