They'll change it or the gamers will start a big flame war in the steam
forum :-D


2013/10/20 martin v <velt...@gmail.com>

> Oh my..... something that valve did caused such a big chaos..... WOW! That
> never happend before ;)
>
>
> 2013/10/20 Kyle Sanderson <kyle.l...@gmail.com>
>
> > Today, we're seeing a ton of banned, griefing players using VPNs and
> > throw-away Steam accounts to bypass server bans. The problem already
> seems
> > to be pretty widespread in CS:S. Considering this is the first weekend
> > where the beta was opened up, it's only going to get worse. I'm sure this
> > isn't isolated to CS:S, or my servers. There are many others running
> > community servers, some probably not even using Source that are impacted
> by
> > this. The native Steam Exploit seems to be getting abused quite heavily.
> >
> > The theoretical is now the present,
> > Kyle.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Jesse Oak <wazanato...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Every game copy should have an ID associated with it, this way an admin
> > > can ban per copy of the game rather then player ID. It's bad enough
> right
> > > now in TF2 and some of the Source mod games where a griefer can just
> > > quickly make a new account and reset their IP address having this start
> > to
> > > happen in games like CSGO is going to be a major pain for admins.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Valentin G. <nextra...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Banning by IP is useless for many countries. And if cheaters abuse the
> > >> family sharing they will certainly go to the "lengths" of making a
> quick
> > >> new dial-in to grab that new IP.
> > >>
> > >> I have already said this much on the Beta Forums, and fully agree with
> > >> Kyle. This brings the TF2 F2P dilemma to every title.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dominik Friedrichs <d...@forlix.org
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 2013/10/18 03:38, N-Gon wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I agree with Dog.
> > >>>> However, I would also like to note that with SourceMod you could ban
> > the
> > >>>> users by IP. Sure they can change it, but most of the trolls are
> > either
> > >>>> too stupid to figure out how or too stupid to figure out how to do
> it
> > >>>> quickly. Meaning you'd see the "repeat offender" now and then, but
> not
> > >>>> enough to be too much of a nuisance.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to note that for broadband providers in my area it is quite
> > >>> common to hand out a different IP on every dial in, while a
> connection
> > with
> > >>> that same IP can be kept alive for 24 hours at maximum. Hence I would
> > never
> > >>> bother to ban by IP if the ban is supposed to be longer than a few
> > hours.
> > >>>
> > >>>
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