Please don't conflate this issue with ads. Ads were already being blocked from quickplay. This additional restriction is an unnecessary slap in the face that doesn't do anything except siphon all the players to Valve.
Just because you can sell pay-to-win perks on css zombie mod doesn't mean that is the economic model that everyone else should embrace. If CSS had quickplay I doubt your servers would be half as full as they are now. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Kyle Sanderson <kyle.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sure the new quickplay stuff is opt-out, like the player slots > restriction that was added to CS:S; but it's hopefully a remembered > setting and one time thing. > > This is probably a horrible time, but honestly I'm glad to see Valve > is reverting their decision to jump into bed with Pinion. I can't wait > for their ad-powered L4D and L4D2 servers to disappear. I can't really > blame any communities because it's not like they came up with the idea > on their own. Valve started promoting the usage with their `Quickplay` > servers, and it went from there into other games. Reverting it now > seems to be a half-handed action... > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32478884&postcount=11 > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33551508&postcount=13 > > Hell, they even have a special user-group on SPUF. > > Not to be that guy, but I think ProdigySim said it best: > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32997278&postcount=12. > > They're still trying to recruit communities too. About 9? months ago > they (Pinion Arthur) contacted myself and a few others on Steam to add > their plugin to our servers... > > Hopefully we'll see a day where Valve becomes unified and stops > officially supporting Ads in games, without cabbals inner-fighting and > sending mixed messages to everyone. > > Forever waiting, > Kyle. > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> > wrote: > > While I agree with what you are saying, what does cl_connectmethod have > to > > do with any of this? > > On Jan 23, 2014 9:12 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> First they came for the custom attachments, and I did not speak out. > >> Because I did not use it. > >> Then they came for fast respawn, and I did not speak out. Because I did > not > >> use it. > >> Then they came for increased slots, and I did not speak out. Because I > did > >> not use it. > >> Then they came for the MOTD, and I did not speak out. Because it would > hurt > >> others more than me. > >> Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me. > >> > >> This is a repeat of the "Custom Tabs" fiasco. Except Valve probably > won't > >> remove it this time because they can wave the evidence that a minority > of > >> players use quickplay, despite the fact that quickplay has a monopoly on > >> new players and without them your server is dead. Your current players > >> won't play TF2 forever. > >> > >> I saw this coming a mile away when Valve released the cl_connectmethod > >> convar. As I have said time and time again, Valve has obligations to > server > >> owners as well as players. We, or at least I, bought TF2 expecting not > to > >> have our hosting abilities crippled so much. > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Why? > >> > > >> > Adding a "Valve servers only" checkbox (that's checked by default) is > >> going > >> > to hurt enough (and only those communities that are playing by the > rules; > >> > cheating communities will just steal *more* traffic from the > legitimate > >> > communities). > >> > > >> > It's now all but impossible to try to retain a client who joined via > >> > Quickplay (and those are the clients we *need* to retain). We can't > show > >> > them our website. We can't even allow them to use a menu to jump to > >> another > >> > one of our servers anymore. > >> > > >> > Please think about what you're doing. If your intention is to harm the > >> good > >> > communities, you're doing a fine job at it. > >> > > >> > Dr. McKay > >> > www.doctormckay.com > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
